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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: hadi@cyberus.ca
Cc: eric.dumazet@gmail.com, therbert@google.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, robert@herjulf.net, xiaosuo@gmail.com,
	andi@firstfloor.org
Subject: Re: rps perfomance WAS(Re: rps: question
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 01:48:57 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100415.014857.168270765.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1271271222.4567.51.camel@bigi>

From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:53:42 -0400

> On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 20:04 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> 
>> Yes, multiqueue is far better of course, but in case of hardware lacking
>> multiqueue, RPS can help many workloads, where application has _some_
>> work to do, not only counting frames or so...
> 
> Agreed. So to enumerate, the benefits come in if:
> a) you have many processors
> b) you have single-queue nic
> c) at sub-threshold traffic you dont care about a little latency
> d) you have a specific cache hierachy
> e) app is working hard to process incoming messages

A single-queue NIC is actually not a requirement, RPS helps also in
cases where you have 'N' application threads and N is less than the
number of CPUs your multi-queue NIC is distributing traffic to.

Moving the bulk of the input packet processing to the cpus where
the applications actually sit had a non-trivial benefit.  RFS takes
this aspect to yet another level.

> I think the main challenge for my pedantic mind is missing details. Is
> there a paper on rps? Example for #d above, the commit log mentions that
> rps benefits if you have certain types of "cache hierachy". Probably
> some arch with large shared L2/3 (maybe inclusive) cache will benefit.
> example: it does well on Nehalem and probably opterons as long (as you
> dont start stacking these things on some interconnect like QPI or HT).
> But what happens when you have FSB sharing across cores (still a very
> common setup)? etc etc

I think for the case where application locality is important,
RPS/RFS can help regardless of cache details.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-15  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-07 18:42 rps: question jamal
2010-02-08  5:58 ` Tom Herbert
2010-02-08 15:09   ` jamal
2010-04-14 11:53     ` rps perfomance WAS(Re: " jamal
2010-04-14 17:31       ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-14 18:04         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-14 18:53           ` jamal
2010-04-14 19:44             ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-04-14 19:58               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-15  8:51                 ` David Miller
2010-04-14 20:22               ` jamal
2010-04-14 20:27                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-14 20:38                   ` jamal
2010-04-14 20:45                   ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-14 20:57                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-14 22:51                       ` Changli Gao
2010-04-14 23:02                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-04-15  2:40                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-15  2:50                             ` Changli Gao
2010-04-15  8:57                       ` David Miller
2010-04-15 12:10                       ` jamal
2010-04-15 12:32                         ` Changli Gao
2010-04-15 12:50                           ` jamal
2010-04-15 23:51                             ` Changli Gao
2010-04-15  8:51                 ` David Miller
2010-04-14 20:34               ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15  8:50               ` David Miller
2010-04-15  8:48             ` David Miller [this message]
2010-04-15 11:55               ` jamal
2010-04-15 16:41                 ` Rick Jones
2010-04-15 20:16                   ` jamal
2010-04-15 20:25                     ` Rick Jones
2010-04-15 23:56                     ` Changli Gao
2010-04-16  5:18                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16  6:02                         ` Changli Gao
2010-04-16  6:28                           ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-16  6:32                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 13:42                             ` jamal
2010-04-16  7:15                           ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 13:27                             ` jamal
2010-04-16 13:37                               ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 13:58                                 ` jamal
2010-04-16 13:21                         ` jamal
2010-04-16 13:34                           ` Changli Gao
2010-04-16 13:49                             ` jamal
2010-04-16 14:10                               ` Changli Gao
2010-04-16 14:43                                 ` jamal
2010-04-16 14:58                                   ` Changli Gao
2010-04-19 12:48                                     ` jamal
2010-04-17  7:35                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17  8:43                             ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-17  9:23                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17 14:27                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17 17:26                                   ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-17 14:17                               ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: remove time limit in process_backlog() Eric Dumazet
2010-04-18  9:36                                 ` David Miller
2010-04-17 17:31                             ` rps perfomance WAS(Re: rps: question jamal
2010-04-18  9:39                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-18 11:34                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19  2:09                                   ` jamal
2010-04-19  9:37                                   ` [RFC] rps: shortcut net_rps_action() Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19  9:48                                     ` Changli Gao
2010-04-19 12:14                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19 12:28                                         ` Changli Gao
2010-04-19 13:27                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19 14:22                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19 15:07                                               ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] " Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19 16:02                                                 ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-19 20:21                                                 ` David Miller
2010-04-20  7:17                                                   ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] rps: cleanups Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20  8:18                                                     ` David Miller
2010-04-19 23:56                                                 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] rps: shortcut net_rps_action() Changli Gao
2010-04-20  0:32                                                   ` Changli Gao
2010-04-20  5:55                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20 12:02                                   ` rps perfomance WAS(Re: rps: question jamal
2010-04-20 13:13                                     ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                                       ` <1271853570.4032.21.camel@bigi>
2010-04-21 19:01                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-22  1:27                                           ` Changli Gao
2010-04-22 12:12                                           ` jamal
2010-04-25  2:31                                             ` Changli Gao
2010-04-26 11:35                                               ` jamal
2010-04-26 13:35                                                 ` Changli Gao
2010-04-21 21:53                                         ` Rick Jones
2010-04-16 15:57             ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-14 18:53       ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-04-15  8:42       ` David Miller

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