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From: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Scott Feldman <scofeldm@cisco.com>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [net-next,1/2] add iovnl netlink support
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:48:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100421224802.GF28829@x200.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201004212313.05060.arnd@arndb.de>

* Arnd Bergmann (arnd@arndb.de) wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 April 2010, Scott Feldman wrote:
> > On 4/21/10 12:39 PM, "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > 
> > >>> 1. Setting up the slave device
> > >>>  a) create an SR-IOV VF to assign to a guest
> > >>>  b) create a macvtap device to pass to qemu or vhost
> > >>>  c) attach a tap device to a bridge
> > >>>  d) create a macvlan device and put it into a container
> > >>>  e) create a virtual interface for a VMDq adapter
> > >> 
> > >> OK, but iovnl isn't doing this.
> > > 
> > > The set_mac_vlan that Scott's patch adds seems to implement 1a), as far
> > > as I can tell. Interestingly, this is not actually implemented in
> > > the enic driver in patch 2/2. So if we all agree that this is out of the
> > > scope of iovnl, let's just remove it from the interface and find another
> > > way for it (ethtool, iplink, ..., as listed above).
> > 
> > You're right, not needed for enic since mac addr is included with
> > port-profile push and vlan membership is implied by port-profile.  So I put
> > set_mac_vlan in there basically to elicit feedback.
> 
> Ok. Two points though:
> 
> - when you say that the mac address is included in the port-profile push,
>   does that imply that the VF does not have a mac address prior to this?
>   This would again mix the NIC configuration phase with the switch
>   association, which I think we really need to avoid if we want to be
>   able to implement the association in user space!
> 
> - The VLAN ID being implied in the port profile seems to be another
>   difference between what enic is doing and the current draft VDP
>   that will eventually become 802.1Qbg, and I fear that this difference
>   will be visible in the iovnl protocol.
> 
> > There really wouldn't be much different between iplink and iovnl since
> > they're both rtnetlink...seems we should keep IOV-related APIs in one place.
> > Maybe there are other IOV APIs to add to iovnl in the future like:
> > 
> >     vf <- add_vf(pf)
> >     del_vf(pf, vf)
> > 
> > Ethtool doesn't seem the right place for this.
> 
> Right. My preference would probably be make these a subcategory of
> the if_link, and use the existing RTM_NEWLINK/RTM_DELLINK commands.
> This would make it resemble the existing interfaces and mean you can
> use
> 
> ip link add link eth0 type macvlan    # for a container
> ip link add link eth0 type macvtap    # for qemu/vhost
> ip link add link eth0 type vf         # for device assignment

BTW, what do you mean by device assignment?

> There are obviously significant differences between these three, but
> they also share enough of their properties to let us treat them
> in similar ways.
> 
> If we integrate the iovnl client into iproute2, the sequence for setting
> up an enic VF and associating it to the port profile could be
> 
> # create vf0, pass mac and vlan id to HW, no association yet
> ip link add link eth0 name vf0 type vf mac fe:dc:ba:12:34:56 vlan 78

Just to clarify...right now, the normal SR-IOV VF is already there.
And, or course, can have its mac addr/vlan set already.

> # associate vf with port profile, mac address must match the one assigned
> #  to the interface before.
> ip iov assoc eth0 port-profile "general" host-uuid "dcf2a873-f5ee-41dd-a7ad-802a544e48c2" \
> 	 mac fe:dc:ba:12:34:56

At that point you could just do s/mac fe:.*/link vf0/

thanks,
-chris

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-21 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-19 19:18 [net-next PATCH 0/2] iovnl netlink ops + enic dynamic vnics Scott Feldman
2010-04-19 19:18 ` [net-next PATCH 1/2] add iovnl netlink support Scott Feldman
2010-04-20 13:48   ` [net-next,1/2] " Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-20 14:34     ` Chris Wright
2010-04-20 14:57       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-20 15:22         ` Chris Wright
2010-04-20 16:19           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-20 20:26             ` Scott Feldman
2010-04-21 13:17               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-21 16:28                 ` Scott Feldman
2010-04-21 18:04                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-20 19:56     ` Scott Feldman
2010-04-21 11:26       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-21 11:42         ` Selective MD5 Checksum Failuers Bijay Singh
2010-04-21 16:18         ` [net-next,1/2] add iovnl netlink support Chris Wright
2010-04-21 17:52           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-21 18:10             ` Chris Wright
2010-04-21 19:39               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-21 20:25                 ` Scott Feldman
2010-04-21 21:13                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-21 22:48                     ` Chris Wright [this message]
2010-04-22  6:51                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-22 17:47                         ` Chris Wright
2010-04-22 18:48                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-22 19:02                             ` Chris Wright
2010-04-22 19:36                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-22 21:03                                 ` Chris Wright
2010-04-21 23:54                     ` Scott Feldman
2010-04-22 12:49                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-22  7:09                     ` David Miller
2010-04-21 22:18                 ` Chris Wright
2010-04-22  0:01                   ` Scott Feldman
2010-04-21 21:22     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-22  6:48   ` [net-next PATCH 1/2] " David Miller
2010-04-22 21:23     ` Scott Feldman
2010-04-22 23:04       ` David Miller
2010-04-22 23:16       ` eSwitch management Anirban Chakraborty
2010-04-23  0:47         ` Scott Feldman
2010-04-23  1:29           ` Scott Feldman
2010-04-23  5:57             ` Anirban Chakraborty
2010-04-23 12:42               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-23 16:23               ` Chris Wright
2010-04-23 19:00                 ` Anirban Chakraborty
2010-04-23 19:44                   ` Chris Wright
2010-04-23 21:08                     ` Anirban Chakraborty
2010-04-23 23:04                       ` Chris Wright
2010-04-24  6:21                         ` Anirban Chakraborty
2010-04-22  6:52   ` [net-next PATCH 1/2] add iovnl netlink support David Miller
2010-04-22 10:53     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-22 10:56       ` David Miller
2010-04-22 11:12         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-19 19:18 ` [net-next PATCH 2/2] add enic iovnl ops for dynamic vnics Scott Feldman
2010-04-19 21:35 ` [net-next PATCH 0/2] iovnl netlink ops + enic " Chris Wright

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