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From: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: andi@firstfloor.org, therbert@google.com, shemminger@vyatta.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, ycheng@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tcp: Socket option to set congestion window
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:46:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100527074645.GC2728@nuttenaction> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100527.002851.02281005.davem@davemloft.net>

* David Miller | 2010-05-27 00:28:51 [-0700]:

>Superior or not, it's simply never going to happen.  We are far beyond
>being able to get to where we were before NAT'ing and shaping devices
>started to get inserted everywhere on the network.
>
>And I also don't see any of this stuff as fundamentally proprietary.

We will see! If no real interaction between peers is required
ISP/Carrier/InternetExchanges will start to put their proprietary components
into the network. Because they have niffty features, the product developed
phase is shorten (no borring standardizations necessary) and so on. This is no
new insight.

>People want deep packet inspection, people want to control their user's
>traffic.  And people, most importantly, are willing to pay for this.
>
>Therefore, these elements will always be in the network.
>
>Better to co-exist with them and use them to our advantage instead of
>fantasizing about a utopia where they don't exist.

Sure, we have no alternative.

HGN


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-27  7:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-26  5:01 [PATCH] tcp: Socket option to set congestion window Tom Herbert
2010-05-26  5:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-05-26  5:52   ` David Miller
2010-05-26  7:06     ` Tom Herbert
2010-05-26  7:33       ` David Miller
2010-05-26 17:33       ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-26 17:41         ` Denys Fedorysychenko
2010-05-26 21:08         ` David Miller
2010-05-26 21:27           ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-26 22:10             ` David Miller
2010-05-26 22:29               ` Rick Jones
2010-05-27  7:57                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-26 23:15               ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-05-27  3:04                 ` David Miller
2010-05-27  7:08                   ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-05-27  7:28                     ` David Miller
2010-05-27  7:46                       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer [this message]
2010-05-27 16:14                     ` Tom Herbert
2010-05-27 18:56                       ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-27 19:19                       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-05-27  8:00               ` Andi Kleen

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