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From: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: rick.jones2@hp.com, lists@wildgooses.com, davidsen@tmr.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Raise initial congestion window size / speedup slow start?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:13:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100714221301.GI6682@nuttenaction> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100714.145547.102555471.davem@davemloft.net>

* David Miller | 2010-07-14 14:55:47 [-0700]:

>Although section 3 of RFC 5681 is a great text, it does not say at all
>that increasing the initial CWND would lead to fairness issues.

Because it is only one side of the medal, probing conservative the available
link capacity in conjunction with n simultaneous probing TCP/SCTP/DCCP
instances is another.

>To be honest, I think google's proposal holds a lot of weight.  If
>over time link sizes and speeds are increasing (they are) then nudging
>the initial CWND every so often is a legitimate proposal.  Were
>someone to claim that utilization is lower than it could be because of
>the currenttly specified initial CWND, I would have no problem
>believing them.
>
>And I'm happy to make Linux use an increased value once it has
>traction in the standardization community.

Currently I know no working link capacity probing approach, without active
network feedback, to conservatively probing the available link capacity with a
high CWND. I am curious about any future trends.

>But for all we know this side discussion about initial CWND settings
>could have nothing to do with the issue being reported at the start of
>this thread. :-)

;-) sure, but it is often wise to thwart these kind of discussions. It seems
these CWND discussions turn up once every other month. ;-)

Hagen

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-14 22:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4C3D94E3.9080103@wildgooses.com>
     [not found] ` <4C3DD5EB.9070908@tmr.com>
2010-07-14 18:15   ` Raise initial congestion window size / speedup slow start? David Miller
2010-07-14 18:48     ` Ed W
2010-07-14 19:10       ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-07-14 21:47         ` Mitchell Erblich
2010-07-14 20:17       ` Rick Jones
2010-07-14 20:39         ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-14 21:55           ` David Miller
2010-07-14 22:13             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer [this message]
2010-07-14 22:19               ` Rick Jones
2010-07-14 22:40                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-14 22:52               ` Ed W
2010-07-14 23:01                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-14 23:05                   ` Ed W
2010-07-15  3:49               ` Bill Fink
2010-07-15  5:29                 ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-15 19:51                   ` Rick Jones
2010-07-15 20:48                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-07-16  0:23                       ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-16  9:03                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-15 10:33               ` Alan Cox
2010-07-14 22:05           ` Ed W
2010-07-14 22:36             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-14 23:01               ` Ed W
2010-07-15  4:12           ` Tom Herbert
2010-07-15  7:48             ` Ed W
2010-07-15 17:36               ` Jerry Chu
2010-07-15  5:09           ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-15  2:52     ` Bill Fink
2010-07-15  4:51     ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-16 17:01       ` Patrick McManus
2010-07-16 17:41         ` Ed W
2010-07-17  1:23           ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-17  0:36         ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-19 17:08           ` Rick Jones
2010-07-19 22:51             ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2010-07-19 23:42               ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-07-15 23:14     ` Bill Davidsen

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