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From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver-core: Fix bluetooth network device rename regression
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:54:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100722185449.GB528@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1279823801.12439.31.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net>

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 08:36:41PM +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 11:28 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> 
> > It worked only because no one realized that it was broken with the
> > DEPRECATED option enabled.  When that is enabled, it is broken, right?
> 
> I'm pretty sure I always had that enabled, and never had issues. Can't
> test right now since I don't have that option back yet in the tree I'm
> using.
> 
> > Eric's changes to sysfs to add namespace support exposed this breakage.
> > That's not a reason to paper over the problem, but it should be driving
> > someone to fix it correctly, as has been pointed out a number of times
> > already.
> 
> I'm just contesting that that someone should be me. I don't think you
> get to blame driver developers for doing something that worked and
> solved the problem they needed to solve. sysfs is largely opaque to most
> of us already, and it now sure feels like Kay decided to change the
> rules underneath the code in saying "this was wrong all along".

Well, if it worked before, and it doesn't now, that's due to Eric's
changes, nothing Kay and I did here :)

But, in looking at it closer, it does seem that the code is doing things
that was not expected to work at all previously, and It's amazing that
it did.  I thought Kay offered to help fix it all up, and provided 2
different ways to do it.  I know they aren't trivial, but then again,
your usage of sysfs is not trivial either...

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-22 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-16257-10286@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
     [not found] ` <20100621150826.762ac9f2.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2010-06-21 22:22   ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 16257] New: sysfs changes break hwsim and bnep drivers Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 22:29     ` Greg KH
2010-06-21 22:55       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 23:10         ` Greg KH
2010-06-22  0:05           ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-22  3:56             ` Greg KH
2010-07-08 16:31               ` [PATCH] sysfs: Don't allow the creation of symlinks we can't remove Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-08 16:37                 ` [RFC][PATCH] mac80211_hwsim: No parent is better than an illegimate one Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-12  6:46                   ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-12 14:23                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-12 14:29                       ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-08 21:19                 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Don't allow the creation of symlinks we can't remove Greg KH
2010-07-08 22:28                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-08 23:06                     ` Greg KH
2010-07-19 20:34                       ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-20 20:13                         ` Greg KH
2010-07-21  5:08                           ` [PATCH 0/2] Support untagged symlinks to tagged directories Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21  5:10                             ` [PATCH 1/2] sysfs: sysfs_delete_link handle symlinks from untagged " Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21  5:12                               ` [PATCH 2/2] sysfs: allow creating " Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21 19:02                             ` [PATCH 0/2] Support untagged symlinks " Greg KH
2010-07-21 20:20                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21 20:36                                 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22  9:16                             ` [PATCH] Driver-core: Fix bluetooth network device rename regression Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 13:38                               ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 14:10                                 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 15:30                                   ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 17:18                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 17:44                                   ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 18:20                                     ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 18:28                                       ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 18:36                                         ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 18:54                                           ` Greg KH [this message]
2010-07-23  1:31                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-26 18:09                                               ` Greg KH
2010-07-27  9:10                                                 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 13:49                                                   ` Greg KH
2010-07-27 13:59                                                     ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-27 15:09                                                       ` Greg KH
2010-07-27 15:32                                                         ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 18:17                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-27 18:24                                                       ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 18:36                                                         ` Greg KH
2010-07-27 18:44                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-27 18:54                                                             ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 20:53                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-28  4:41                                                                 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-28  5:12                                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-28  5:26                                                                     ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-28  7:57                                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-25  5:43                                             ` [PATCH] Driver-core: Always create class directories for classses that support namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-26 18:07                                               ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 23:03                                       ` [PATCH] Driver-core: Fix bluetooth network device rename regression Kay Sievers
2010-07-10 22:30                 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Don't allow the creation of symlinks we can't remove Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-07-22  9:54                 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 10:05                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 10:10                     ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 10:35                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 10:41                         ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 11:27                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 11:30                             ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-08 16:55               ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 16257] New: sysfs changes break hwsim and bnep drivers Eric W. Biederman

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