From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver-core: Fix bluetooth network device rename regression
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:54:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100722185449.GB528@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1279823801.12439.31.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net>
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 08:36:41PM +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 11:28 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
>
> > It worked only because no one realized that it was broken with the
> > DEPRECATED option enabled. When that is enabled, it is broken, right?
>
> I'm pretty sure I always had that enabled, and never had issues. Can't
> test right now since I don't have that option back yet in the tree I'm
> using.
>
> > Eric's changes to sysfs to add namespace support exposed this breakage.
> > That's not a reason to paper over the problem, but it should be driving
> > someone to fix it correctly, as has been pointed out a number of times
> > already.
>
> I'm just contesting that that someone should be me. I don't think you
> get to blame driver developers for doing something that worked and
> solved the problem they needed to solve. sysfs is largely opaque to most
> of us already, and it now sure feels like Kay decided to change the
> rules underneath the code in saying "this was wrong all along".
Well, if it worked before, and it doesn't now, that's due to Eric's
changes, nothing Kay and I did here :)
But, in looking at it closer, it does seem that the code is doing things
that was not expected to work at all previously, and It's amazing that
it did. I thought Kay offered to help fix it all up, and provided 2
different ways to do it. I know they aren't trivial, but then again,
your usage of sysfs is not trivial either...
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-22 18:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <bug-16257-10286@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
[not found] ` <20100621150826.762ac9f2.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2010-06-21 22:22 ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 16257] New: sysfs changes break hwsim and bnep drivers Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 22:29 ` Greg KH
2010-06-21 22:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 23:10 ` Greg KH
2010-06-22 0:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-22 3:56 ` Greg KH
2010-07-08 16:31 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Don't allow the creation of symlinks we can't remove Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-08 16:37 ` [RFC][PATCH] mac80211_hwsim: No parent is better than an illegimate one Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-12 6:46 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-12 14:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-12 14:29 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-08 21:19 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Don't allow the creation of symlinks we can't remove Greg KH
2010-07-08 22:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-08 23:06 ` Greg KH
2010-07-19 20:34 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-20 20:13 ` Greg KH
2010-07-21 5:08 ` [PATCH 0/2] Support untagged symlinks to tagged directories Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21 5:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] sysfs: sysfs_delete_link handle symlinks from untagged " Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21 5:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] sysfs: allow creating " Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21 19:02 ` [PATCH 0/2] Support untagged symlinks " Greg KH
2010-07-21 20:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-21 20:36 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 9:16 ` [PATCH] Driver-core: Fix bluetooth network device rename regression Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 13:38 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 14:10 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 15:30 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 17:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 17:44 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 18:20 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 18:28 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 18:36 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 18:54 ` Greg KH [this message]
2010-07-23 1:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-26 18:09 ` Greg KH
2010-07-27 9:10 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 13:49 ` Greg KH
2010-07-27 13:59 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-27 15:09 ` Greg KH
2010-07-27 15:32 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 18:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-27 18:24 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 18:36 ` Greg KH
2010-07-27 18:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-27 18:54 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-27 20:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-28 4:41 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-28 5:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-28 5:26 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-28 7:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-25 5:43 ` [PATCH] Driver-core: Always create class directories for classses that support namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-26 18:07 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 23:03 ` [PATCH] Driver-core: Fix bluetooth network device rename regression Kay Sievers
2010-07-10 22:30 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Don't allow the creation of symlinks we can't remove Maciej W. Rozycki
2010-07-22 9:54 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 10:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 10:10 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 10:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 10:41 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-22 11:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22 11:30 ` Johannes Berg
2010-07-08 16:55 ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 16257] New: sysfs changes break hwsim and bnep drivers Eric W. Biederman
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