From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dmitri Vorobiev <dmitri.vorobiev@movial.com>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH repost] sched: export sched_set/getaffinity to modules
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:50:22 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100801085022.GD16158@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100730141901.GA9076@redhat.com>
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 04:19:01PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> Sorry for the delay, I can't be responsive these days...
>
> On 07/27, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:08:34PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > On 07/26, Sridhar Samudrala wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have been testing out a similar patch that uses kernel_thread() without CLONE_FILES
> > > > flag rather than create_kthread() and then closing the files.
> > >
> > > !CLONE_FILES can't help. copy_files() does dup_fd() in this case.
> > > The child still inherits the files.
> > >
> > > > Either version should be fine.
> > >
> > > I think neither version is fine ;)
> > >
> > > exit_files() is not enough too. How about the signals, reparenting?
> > >
> > >
> > > I already forgot all details, probably I missed somethig. But it
> > > seems to me that it is better to just export get/set affinity and
> > > forget about all complications.
> > >
> > > Oleg.
> >
> > Oleg, so can I attach your Ack to the patch in question, and merge
> > it all through net-next?
>
> Well, I do not think you need my ack ;)
>
>
> But I must admit, I personally dislike this idea. A kernel thread which
> is the child of the user-space process, and in fact it is not the "real"
> kernel thread. I think this is against the common case. If you do not
> care the signals/reparenting, why can't you fork the user-space process
> which does all the work via ioctl's ? OK, I do not understand the problem
> domain, probably this can't work.
>
> Anyway, the patch looks buggy to me. Starting from
>
> create_kthread(&create);
> wait_for_completion(&create.done);
>
> At least you should check create_kthread() suceeds, otherwise
> wait_for_completion() will hang forever. OTOH, if it suceeds then
> wait_for_completion() is not needed. But this is minor.
>
> create_kthread()->kernel_thread() uses CLONE_VM, this means that the
> child will share ->mm. And this means that if the parent recieves
> the coredumping signal it will hang forever in kernel space waiting
> until this child exits.
>
> This is just the immediate surprise I can see with this approach,
> I am afraid there is something else.
>
> And once again. We are doing this hacks only because we lack a
> couples of exports (iiuk). This is, well, a bit strange ;)
>
> Oleg.
Oleg, I mean Ack the exporting of get/set affinity.
Thanks!
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-01 8:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 0:04 [PATCH 2/3] workqueue: Add an API to create a singlethread workqueue attached to the current task's cgroup Sridhar Samudrala
2010-05-27 9:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-27 12:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-27 13:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-27 13:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-27 16:15 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-27 16:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-27 16:56 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-27 17:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-27 21:20 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-28 15:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-28 15:54 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-30 11:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 20:24 ` [PATCH 1/3] vhost: replace vhost_workqueue with per-vhost kthread Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 14:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-31 15:07 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 15:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-31 15:38 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 15:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-31 15:45 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 16:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 9:34 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-02 18:40 ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2010-06-02 21:34 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-22 15:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-22 21:21 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-24 19:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-25 7:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-25 10:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 15:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 15:34 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 15:46 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 15:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 15:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 16:05 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 16:14 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 16:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 18:51 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 19:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-27 8:18 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 16:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 19:14 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 19:31 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 19:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-27 19:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-28 7:48 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-28 10:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-28 12:00 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 16:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 16:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 19:04 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 20:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-27 8:21 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-01 9:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] cgroups: Add an API to attach a task to current task's cgroup Tejun Heo
2010-06-01 9:35 ` [PATCH 3/3] vhost: apply cpumask and cgroup to vhost workers Tejun Heo
2010-06-01 10:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 10:56 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-01 17:19 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-06-01 23:59 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-01 14:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] vhost: replace vhost_workqueue with per-vhost kthread Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-30 20:24 ` [PATCH 2/3] cgroups: Add an API to attach a task to current task's cgroup Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 1:07 ` Li Zefan
2010-05-31 7:00 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-30 20:25 ` [PATCH 3/3] vhost: apply cpumask and cgroup to vhost pollers Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 1:11 ` Li Zefan
2010-05-31 6:58 ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 7:48 ` Li Zefan
2010-05-31 10:20 ` [PATCH UPDATED2 " Tejun Heo
2010-06-24 8:11 ` [PATCH " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-24 22:45 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-06-25 10:10 ` [PATCH] sched: export sched_set/getaffinity (was Re: [PATCH 3/3] vhost: apply cpumask and cgroup to vhost pollers) Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 11:07 ` [PATCH repost] sched: export sched_set/getaffinity to modules Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 11:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 11:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 12:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 12:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 13:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 13:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 13:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 14:27 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-01 14:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-01 14:53 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-01 14:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-02 18:01 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-02 18:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-02 21:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-04 9:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-13 6:59 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-13 11:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-14 23:26 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-15 0:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-15 5:29 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-26 17:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 17:51 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-26 18:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-26 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 20:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-27 4:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-08-04 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-27 15:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-30 14:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-30 14:31 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-01 8:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-08-02 15:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-01 14:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-01 12:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 12:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 13:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 13:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-27 16:24 ` [PATCH 2/3] workqueue: Add an API to create a singlethread workqueue attached to the current task's cgroup Sridhar Samudrala
2010-05-27 16:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-27 17:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
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