Linux Plumbers Conference: User-visible Network Issues Mini-Conf

Linux Plumbers Conference: User-visible Network Issues Mini-Conf

[Matt_Domsch]

At the Linux Plumbers Conference [1] November 3-5, 2010 in Cambridge, MA, we have a half-day mini-conference [2] set aside to discuss "User-visible Network Issues" - challenges that users face, that could benefit from both userspace and kernel enhancements to make their lives easier.

Discussion proposals for this track are:

* Achieving Better Out-of-the-box Network Scaling 
This is a discussion of how Linux needs to scale better out-of-the-box with large I/O network devices. 
Peter Waskiewicz

* Challenges in Mobile Networking 
Challenges that we have with networking in the mobile space.
Dan Williams and Marcel Holtmann

* Data Center Bridging: Creating DCB aware networks 
Presentation will highlight the ongoing efforts for enabling data center bridging technologies in the Linux kernel to meet the requirements of applications and stacks over Ethernet. 
John Fastabend

* Network Device Naming 
Which of my NICs is eth0? 
Matt Domsch 

* Scaling techniques in the stack for servers with high connection rates 
This talk will describe some techniques for scaling front end servers. In particular, we will describe the the use of SO_REUSEPORT in scaling servers for high connection rates with a single listening port. 
Tom Herbert 

* Simplifying network configuration for VMs by harmonizing multiple Bridging, QOS, DCB and CNA implementations 
Shyam Iyer


While I'm sure the individual topics will generate great discussion, it will be vital that members of the netdev community be present to represent the kernel developers' perspectives on the problems and to help brainstorm solutions.  Most of these topics have significant kernel components to them, and without additional kernel developer participation, I fear we would just be talking to ourselves, but no real progress made.

I invite you to attend LPC, and this mini-conf in particular, and lend your expertise.  If you will be attending, which of the above topics are of most interest to you? We won't be able to cover all of these in the mini-conf, so those with the most interest  (plus mine of course!) will make the agenda.

Thanks,
Matt

[1] http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2010/
[2] http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2010/ocw/events/LPC2010MC/tracks/63

--
Matt Domsch
Technology Strategist
Dell | Office of the CTO

Re: Linux Plumbers Conference: User-visible Network Issues Mini-Conf

[David Miller]

From: <Matt_Domsch@Dell.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:12:29 -0500

> At the Linux Plumbers Conference [1] November 3-5, 2010 in
> Cambridge, MA, we have a half-day mini-conference [2] set aside to
> discuss "User-visible Network Issues" - challenges that users face,
> that could benefit from both userspace and kernel enhancements to
> make their lives easier.

When you schedule this track, try to keep it off of November 3rd as
the core kernel network folk are holding netconf at LPC for that
entire day.

That is, unless you don't want any of us to attend :-)

Re: Linux Plumbers Conference: User-visible Network Issues Mini-Conf

[Matt Domsch]

At the Linux Plumbers Conference [1] November 3-5, 2010 in Cambridge,
MA, we have a half-day mini-conference [2] set aside on Thursday
morning (so as to follow immediately, but not conflict with netconf)
to discuss "User-visible Network Issues" - challenges that users face,
that could benefit from both userspace and kernel enhancements to make
their lives easier.

Accepted topics are:

* Challenges in Mobile Networking 
Challenges that we have with networking in the mobile space.
Led by Dan Williams

* Network Device Naming 
Which of my NICs is eth0? 
Led by Matt Domsch 
 
* Scaling techniques in the stack for servers with high connection rates 
This talk will describe some techniques for scaling front end
servers. In particular, we will describe the the use of SO_REUSEPORT
in scaling servers for high connection rates with a single listening
port.
Led by Ying Cai

* Simplifying network configuration for VMs by harmonizing multiple Bridging, QOS, DCB and CNA implementations 
Led by Shyam Iyer

While I'm sure the individual topics will generate great discussion,
it will be vital that members of the netdev community be present to
represent the kernel developers' perspectives on the problems and to
help brainstorm solutions.  Most of these topics have significant
kernel components to them, and without additional kernel developer
participation, I fear we would just be talking to ourselves, but no
real progress made.  I invite you to attend LPC, and this
mini-conf in particular, and lend your expertise.

If you would attend LPC, except that the conference fee is a burden,
please let me know.  I have at least one pass available for mini-conf
participants.

Thanks,
Matt

[1] http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2010/
[2] http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2010/ocw/events/LPC2010MC/tracks/63

-- 
Matt Domsch
Technology Strategist
Dell | Office of the CTO

Re: Linux Plumbers Conference: User-visible Network Issues Mini-Conf

[David Miller]

From: Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch@dell.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:50:44 -0500

> While I'm sure the individual topics will generate great discussion,
> it will be vital that members of the netdev community be present to
> represent the kernel developers' perspectives on the problems and to
> help brainstorm solutions.  Most of these topics have significant
> kernel components to them, and without additional kernel developer
> participation, I fear we would just be talking to ourselves, but no
> real progress made.  I invite you to attend LPC, and this mini-conf
> in particular, and lend your expertise.

Half a month before the event is not the time to be making
this kind of formal plea with core networking people.

If someone isn't already attending LPC, at this point there is next to
zero chance they are going to be able to make plans to do so in time.

Re: Linux Plumbers Conference: User-visible Network Issues Mini-Conf

[Matt Domsch]

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 01:18:34AM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> Half a month before the event is not the time to be making
> this kind of formal plea with core networking people.
> 
> If someone isn't already attending LPC, at this point there is next to
> zero chance they are going to be able to make plans to do so in time.

Indeed, and I apologize for the tardiness.  The list of topics is,
with the exception of one which was dropped, the same as in my note of
Sept 17, when I made the same plea, but I fully admit I should have
finalized this list earlier.

-- 
Matt Domsch
Technology Strategist
Dell | Office of the CTO