From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
therbert@google.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
shemminger@vyatta.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xps-mq: Transmit Packet Steering for multiqueue
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:24:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100919172451.GA12878@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1284673961.2283.57.camel@achroite.uk.solarflarecom.com>
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:52:41PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 18:32 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > From: Tom Herbert <therbert@google.com>
> > Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 09:24:18 -0700
> >
> > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> 3) Eventually have a user selectable selection (socket option, or system
> > >> wide, but one sysctl, not many bitmasks ;) ).
> > >>
> > > Right, but it would also be nice if a single sysctl could optimally
> > > set up multiqueue, RSS, RPS, and all my interrupt affinities for me
> > > ;-)
> >
> > It's becomming increasingly obvious to me that we need (somewhere,
> > not necessarily the kernel) a complete datastructure representing
> > the NUMA, cache, cpu, device hierarchy.
>
> And ideally a cheap way (not O(N^2)) to find the distance between 2 CPU
> threads (not just nodes).
>
> > And that can be used to tweak all of this stuff.
> >
> > The policy should probably be in userspace, we just need to provide
> > the knobs in the kernel to tweak it however userspace wants.
> >
> > Userspace should be able to, for example, move a TX queue into a
> > NUMA domain and have this invoke several side effects:
> >
> > 1) IRQs for that TX queue get rerouted to a cpu in the NUMA
> > domain.
> >
> > 2) TX queue datastructures in the driver get reallocated using
> > memory in that NUMA domain.
>
> I've actually done some work on an interface and implementation of this,
> although I didn't include actually setting the IRQ affinity as there has
> been pushback whenever people propose letting drivers set this. If they
> only do so as directed by the administrator this might be more
> acceptable though.
>
> Unfortunately in my limited testing on a 2-node system I didn't see a
> whole lot of improvement in performance when the affinities were all
> lined up. I should try to get some time on a 4-node system.
I've been trying to look into this as well.
It'd be very interesting to see the patches even if they don't show
good performance. Could you post them?
> > 3) TX hashing is configured to use the set of cpus in the NUMA
> > domain.
> >
> > It's alot of tedious work and involves some delicate tasks figuring
> > out where each of these things go, but really then we'd solve all
> > of this crap one and for all.
>
> Right.
>
> The other thing I've been working on lately which sort of ties into this
> is hardware acceleration of Receive Flow Steering. Multiqueue NICs such
> as ours tend to have RX flow filters as well as hashing. So why not use
> those to do a first level of steering? We're going to do some more
> internal testing and review but I hope to send out a first version of
> this next week.
>
> Ben.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-19 17:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-23 5:39 [PATCH] xps-mq: Transmit Packet Steering for multiqueue Tom Herbert
2010-08-23 17:09 ` Ben Hutchings
[not found] ` <AANLkTinST5zaS0NtBjrzyLbsg=w_EVsHE3DCDcrmQNc6@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-23 17:50 ` Ben Hutchings
2010-08-23 17:59 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-09-01 15:41 ` Tom Herbert
2010-09-01 15:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-09-01 16:24 ` Tom Herbert
2010-09-02 1:32 ` David Miller
2010-09-02 1:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-09-02 16:00 ` Loke, Chetan
2010-09-02 19:52 ` Tom Herbert
2010-09-02 23:17 ` Loke, Chetan
2010-09-02 1:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-09-02 6:41 ` Greg Lindahl
2010-09-02 16:18 ` Loke, Chetan
2010-09-02 15:55 ` Loke, Chetan
2010-09-16 21:52 ` Ben Hutchings
2010-09-19 17:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-09-20 12:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] IRQ: Add irq_get_numa_node() Ben Hutchings
2010-09-20 13:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-09-20 12:45 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] ethtool: NUMA affinity control Ben Hutchings
2010-09-20 12:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] sfc: Add support for " Ben Hutchings
2011-02-21 18:19 ` [PATCH] xps-mq: Transmit Packet Steering for multiqueue Ben Hutchings
2011-02-21 19:31 ` Jeremy Eder
2011-02-26 7:09 ` David Miller
2010-09-01 16:09 ` David Miller
2010-08-24 4:31 ` Bill Fink
2010-08-24 4:37 ` Tom Herbert
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