From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Dan Rosenberg <drosenberg@vsecurity.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
socketcan@hartkopp.net, kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru,
urs.thuermann@volkswagen.de, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
kaber@trash.net, jmorris@namei.org,
remi.denis-courmont@nokia.com, pekkas@netcore.fi, sri@us.ibm.com,
vladislav.yasevich@hp.com, tj@kernel.org, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
joe@perches.com, hadi@mojatatu.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
adobriyan@gmail.com, jpirko@redhat.com, johannes.berg@intel.com,
daniel.lezcano@free.fr, xemul@openvz.org,
socketcan-core@lists.berlios.de, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/10] Fix leaking of kernel heap addresses in net/
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:33:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101112083315.096dfaa3@nehalam> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1289546610.17691.1770.camel@edumazet-laptop>
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:23:30 +0100
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Le jeudi 11 novembre 2010 à 21:34 -0500, Dan Rosenberg a écrit :
> > > I want whatever you replace it with to be equivalent for
> > > object tracking purposes.
> >
> > In nearly all of the cases I fixed, the socket inode is already
> > provided, which serves as a perfectly good unique identifier. Would you
> > prefer I include that information twice?
>
> Oh well. Please read this answer carefuly.
>
> Some facts to feed your next patch. I am very pleased you changed your
> mind and that we keep useful information in kernel log.
>
> 1) Inode numbers are not guaranteed to be unique. Its a 32bit seq
> number, and we dont check another socket inode use the same inode number
> (after 2^32 allocations it can happens)
>
> 2) /proc/net/ files can deliver same "line" of information several
> times, because of their implementation.
>
> 3) Because of SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU, same 'kernel socket pointer' can be
> seen several times in /proc/net/tcp & /proc/net/udp, but really on
> different "sockets"
>
> 4) Some good applications use both the socket pointer and inode number
> (tuple) to filter out the [2] problem. Dont break them, please ?
> Anything that might break an application must be at the very least
> tunable.
>
> In my opinion, a good thing would be :
>
> - Use a special printf() format , aka "secure pointer", as Thomas
> suggested.
>
> - Make sure you print different opaque values for two different kernel
> pointers. This is mandatory.
>
> - Make sure the NULL pointer stay as a NULL pointer to not let the
> hostile user know your secret, and to ease debugging stuff.
>
> - Have security experts advice to chose a nice crypto function, maybe
> jenkin hash. Not too slow would be nice.
>
>
> static unsigned long securize_kpointers_rnd;
>
> At boot time, stick a random value in this variable.
> (Maybe make sure the 5 low order bits are 0)
>
> unsigned long opacify_kptr(unsigned long ptr)
> {
> if (ptr == 0)
> return ptr;
> if (capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN))
> return ptr;
>
> return some_crypto_hash(ptr, &securize_kpointers_rnd);
> }
>
> At least, use a central point, so that we can easily add/change the
> logic if needed.
>
> Please provide this patch in kernel/printk.c for initial review, then
> once everybody is OK, you can send one patch for net tree.
>
> No need to send 10 patches if we dont agree on the general principle.
Also, the whole idea needs to be under a config option, so only
the paranoid idiots turn it on.
--
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-12 16:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-12 2:15 [PATCH 4/10] Fix leaking of kernel heap addresses in net/ Dan Rosenberg
[not found] ` <2129857903-1289528127-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1506931048--JnVBb1XAImjjL2gL5RxOEzYg3SYOavFBmZ6FRVpaDsI@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-12 2:29 ` David Miller
2010-11-12 2:34 ` Dan Rosenberg
2010-11-12 2:49 ` David Miller
2010-11-12 2:51 ` Dan Rosenberg
2010-11-12 2:59 ` David Miller
2010-11-12 7:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-12 12:37 ` Dan Rosenberg
2010-11-12 16:33 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2010-11-12 17:24 ` Dan Rosenberg
2010-11-12 18:33 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-11-12 20:18 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-12 20:37 ` David Miller
2010-11-12 22:40 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-12 22:46 ` David Miller
[not found] <1289673008.3090.350.camel@Dan>
2010-11-13 18:42 ` Dan Rosenberg
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-12 1:07 Dan Rosenberg
2010-11-12 1:10 ` David Miller
2010-11-12 1:20 ` Dan Rosenberg
2010-11-12 2:02 ` David Miller
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