From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Dan Rosenberg <drosenberg@vsecurity.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, jmorris@namei.org,
eric.dumazet@gmail.com, tgraf@infradead.org,
eugeneteo@kernel.org, kees.cook@canonical.com,
davem@davemloft.net, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, eparis@parisplace.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] kptr_restrict for hiding kernel pointers
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:26:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101222212609.GD3139@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1293039332.9820.262.camel@dan>
* Dan Rosenberg <drosenberg@vsecurity.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 18:13 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Dan Rosenberg <drosenberg@vsecurity.com> wrote:
> >
> > > + case 'K':
> > > + /*
> > > + * %pK cannot be used in IRQ context because its test
> > > + * for CAP_SYSLOG would be meaningless.
> > > + */
> > > + if (in_irq() || in_serving_softirq() || in_nmi())
> > > + WARN_ONCE(1, "%%pK used in interrupt context.\n");
> >
> > Hm, that bit looks possibly broken - some useful warning in irq context could print
> > a pointer into the syslog and this would generate a second warning? That probably
> > would crash as it recurses back into the printk code?
> >
>
> I don't see a reason to ever use %pK to print to the syslog, since
> reading it is now optionally protected with dmesg_restrict, and
> stripping pointers from the syslog will cripple any post-mortem
> debugging for everyone. I understand the desire to prevent things from
> breaking even if it's used incorrectly, but I'm not really convinced
> that this would break anything even in this scenario. The WARN_ONCE
> will prevent any unbounded recursion. I'm just not clear on how this
> could cause a crash.
It's a simple QOI issue. We simply do not add kernel facilities that can produce a
stack overflow, memory corruption and triple fault if a rare debug statement
triggers in an IRQ context by accident:
printk(KERN_WARN "driver bar: bug foo in function %pK\n");
> > Instead a warning could be inserted into the generated output instead, for
> > example 'pK-error' (carefully staying within pointer length limits).
>
> If it's used in IRQ context and its output needs to be read by a
> userspace utility using %p to parse, this will break it.
Didnt you just say that it should not be used from IRQ context? There wont be any
user-space tool to read it - it's a simple robustness change: the warning as you
implemented it can crash the system. I suggested an implementation that would emit
the warning in a more robust way.
Thanks,
Ingo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-22 21:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-22 17:00 [PATCH v5] kptr_restrict for hiding kernel pointers Dan Rosenberg
2010-12-22 17:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-12-22 17:17 ` Dan Rosenberg
2010-12-22 17:19 ` Dan Rosenberg
2010-12-22 21:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-22 17:35 ` Dan Rosenberg
2010-12-22 21:26 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
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