From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: "Jamie Iles" <jamie@jamieiles.com>,
gerg@snapgear.com, B32542@freescale.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
s.hauer@pengutronix.de, bryan.wu@canonical.com,
baruch@tkos.co.il, w.sang@pengutronix.de, r64343@freescale.com,
"Shawn Guo" <shawn.guo@freescale.com>,
eric@eukrea.com,
"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
davem@davemloft.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
lw@karo-electronics.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 08/10] ARM: mxs: add ocotp read function
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:35:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110105183509.GH8638@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110105175617.GD12222@shareable.org>
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 05:56:17PM +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> cpu_relax() is a hint to the CPU to, for example, save power or be
> less aggressive on the memory bus (to save power or be fairer).
>
> Currently these architectures do more than just a barrier in cpu_relax():
> x86, IA64, PowerPC, Tile and S390.
>
> Although it's just a hint on ARM at the moment, it might change in
> future - especially with power mattering on so many ARM systems.
> (Even now, just changing it to a very short udelay might save power
> on existing ARMs without breaking drivers.)
I think that's a matter for what the loop is doing. If it's polling
a memory location then it probably has no effect what so ever. If
the loop is spinning on a device, then the CPU will have to wait for
the read to complete which will slow it down.
It's something that would need very careful evaluation, and is probably
something that's very platform and loop specific.
> By the way, I see ARM defines cpu_relax as smp_mb() on arch >= 6. Is
> that correct and useful? On other architectures*, barrier() is enough
> of a barrier, but it's conceivable that smp_mb() would have some
> ARM-specific fairness or bus activity benefit - in which case it
> should probably be mb().
See a discussion last year with Linus. It's there to ensure that one CPU
spinning on a variable can see a write by another CPU to that same
variable. Without the barrier, the visibility effects are unbounded on
ARMv6 - and it's only like that for ARMv6, not >= ARMv6.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-05 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-05 14:07 [PATCH v3 00/10] net/fec: add dual fec support for i.MX28 Shawn Guo
2011-01-05 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] net/fec: fix MMFR_OP type in fec_enet_mdio_write Shawn Guo
2011-01-05 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] net/fec: remove the use of "index" which is legacy Shawn Guo
2011-01-05 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] net/fec: add mac field into platform data and consolidate fec_get_mac Shawn Guo
2011-01-05 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] net/fec: improve pm for better suspend/resume Shawn Guo
2011-01-05 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] net/fec: add dual fec support for mx28 Shawn Guo
2011-01-05 16:34 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-06 4:14 ` Shawn Guo
2011-01-06 7:10 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-07 7:00 ` Shawn Guo
2011-01-07 9:44 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-05 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] ARM: mx28: update clock and device name for dual fec support Shawn Guo
2011-01-05 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] ARM: mx28: add the second fec device registration Shawn Guo
2011-01-05 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] ARM: mxs: add ocotp read function Shawn Guo
2011-01-05 16:16 ` Jamie Iles
2011-01-05 16:44 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-05 17:25 ` Jamie Iles
2011-01-05 17:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2011-01-05 18:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2011-01-05 19:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2011-01-05 20:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-06 0:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2011-01-06 9:13 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-06 1:45 ` Shawn Guo
2011-01-05 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] ARM: mx28: read fec mac address from ocotp Shawn Guo
2011-01-05 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] ARM: mxs: add initial pm support Shawn Guo
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