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From: Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>
To: "Nicolas de Pesloüan" <nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com>
Cc: Andy Gospodarek <andy@greyhouse.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	shemminger@linux-foundation.org, kaber@trash.net,
	fubar@us.ibm.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [patch net-next-2.6] net: reinject arps into bonding slave instead of master
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:11:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110309171100.GA2842@psychotron.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D779CA2.1050302@gmail.com>

Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 04:28:34PM CET, nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com wrote:
>Le 09/03/2011 16:09, Jiri Pirko a écrit :
>>Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 03:49:49PM CET, nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com wrote:
>>>Le 09/03/2011 08:45, Jiri Pirko a écrit :
>>>>Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 10:44:37PM CET, nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>Le 08/03/2011 14:42, Andy Gospodarek a écrit :
>>>>>>I'm pretty sure this patch will have the same catastrophic problem your
>>>>>>last one did.  By cloning and setting skb2->dev = orig_dev you just
>>>>>>inserted a frame identical to the one we received right back into the
>>>>>>stack.  It only took a few minutes for my box to melt as one frame on
>>>>>>the wire will cause an infinite number of frames to be received by the
>>>>>>stack.
>>>>>
>>>>>I agree with Andy. We still keep one reinject (netif_rx), which is
>>>>>probably better that two (__netif_receive_skb), but not enough.
>>>>>
>>>>>I really think we need a general framework for late delivery of final
>>>>>packets to packet handler registered somewhere in the rx_handler
>>>>>path.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jiri, is this patch the one you announced as "I have some kind nice
>>>>>solution in mind and I'm going to submit that as a patch later (too
>>>>>many patches are in the wind atm)" ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I did not had time to verify my thought yet but I think that the only
>>>>think needed against my original patch (bonding: move processing of recv
>>>>handlers into handle_frame()) is ro remove vlan_on_bond_hook, period.
>>>>
>>>>Because all incoming arps are seen by bond_handle_frame =>
>>>>bond->recv_probe , even vlan ones - that would make eth0-bond0-bond0.5
>>>>work and eth0-bond0-br0-bond0.5 as well. But again, need to verify this.
>>>
>>>All incoming ARPs are seen by bond_handle_frame, even vlan ones, definitely true.
>>>
>>>But as some of them *are* vlan ones, you will have to untag those "by hand" inside bond_handle_frame.
>>
>
>>Hmm. For hw vlan accel this would not be needed.
>
>Agreed.
>
>>But for non-hw-vlan-accel the frame is wrapped when going thru handle_frame. And yes, in that
>>case untagging would be necessary. Unless the vlan untagging happening now in ptype_base handler
>>is moved in rx path somewhere before __netif_receive_skb.
>
>Can't it me moved not before, but inside __netif_receive_skb, as a rx_handler?

I don't think so - rx_handler is not right place to untag. rx_handler is
per device. untaging should happen idealy on realdev skb injection. That
way the rx path for hw-vlan-accel and non-he-vlan-accel would be very
similar.

>
>At the time we setup eth0.100, we can arrange for a vlan_untag
>rx_handler to be registered on eth0. This is exactly the way it works
>now for macvlan. Should it be possible (and desirable) for vlan too?
>
>This might re-open the discussion about the need for several
>rx_handlers per interface, but that is another story.
>
>Also, moving it before __netif_receive_skb would cause every protocol
>handlers to receive the frame untagged. At least protocol sniffers
>registered at ptype_all may want to receive the tagged frame, for
>diagnostic purpose.

Thats how its done for hw-vlan-accel. No problem here.

>
>That would result in two things:
>>
>>1) Bond would be able to scope vlan packets
>>2) The rx path for hw-vlan-accel and non-hw-vlan-accel would be the same
>>    (should be desirable + one reinjection would be avoided for
>>     non-hw-vlan-accel)
>
>Agreed, but moving it inside __netif_receive_skb should have the same
>effects. If we move non-hw-accel-vlan to a rx_handler, the skb would
>be COW before being untagged only if shared. This sounds good to me.
>
>	Nicolas.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-09 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-05 10:29 [patch net-next-2.6 0/8] mostly bonding rx path changes Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 10:29 ` [patch net-next-2.6 1/8] af_packet: use skb->skb_iif instead of orig_dev->ifindex Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 14:03   ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 10:29 ` [patch net-next-2.6 2/8] bonding: register slave pointer for rx_handler Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 14:06   ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 14:27     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 14:38       ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 10:29 ` [patch net-next-2.6 3/8] net: get rid of multiple bond-related netdevice->priv_flags Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 14:14   ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 14:37     ` Ben Hutchings
2011-03-05 14:46       ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 10:29 ` [patch net-next-2.6 4/8] bonding: wrap slave state work Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 15:21   ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-07  9:58     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-07 19:55       ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-08  7:18         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-08 21:23           ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 10:29 ` [patch net-next-2.6 5/8] bonding: get rid of IFF_SLAVE_INACTIVE netdev->priv_flag Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 14:18   ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 10:29 ` [patch net-next-2.6 6/8] bonding: move processing of recv handlers into handle_frame() Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 14:33   ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 14:43     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 14:50       ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-06 12:24         ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-06 13:34           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-06 14:25             ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-06 16:32               ` Michał Mirosław
2011-03-06 17:37                 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-07 12:51             ` [patch net-next-2.6] net: reinject arps into bonding slave instead of master Jiri Pirko
2011-03-07 14:32               ` Andy Gospodarek
2011-03-07 20:12                 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-07 21:19                   ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-07 21:30                     ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-07 22:43               ` Andy Gospodarek
2011-03-07 23:09                 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-08  2:43                   ` Andy Gospodarek
2011-03-08 21:34                     ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-08  7:13                 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-08 13:42                   ` Andy Gospodarek
2011-03-08 21:44                     ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-09  7:45                       ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-09 14:49                         ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-09 15:09                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-09 15:28                             ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-09 17:11                               ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2011-03-09 22:18                                 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-10  6:48                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-10 20:44                                     ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-10 20:52                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-10 21:05                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-09 20:51                         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-09 13:33                       ` Neil Horman
2011-03-05 10:29 ` [patch net-next-2.6 7/8] net: introduce rx_handler results and logic around that Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 12:48   ` Ben Hutchings
2011-03-05 14:52     ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 14:54       ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 15:06         ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 15:13     ` [patch net-next-2.6] net: comment rx_handler results Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 15:27       ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 15:37         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 15:50           ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-06 20:00             ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: enhance the documentation for rx_handler Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-07  9:54               ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-07 16:36               ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-07 20:01                 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6 V2] " Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 15:31   ` [patch net-next-2.6 7/8 v2] net: introduce rx_handler results and logic around that Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 10:29 ` [patch net-next-2.6 8/8] net: get rid of orig_dev parameter of packet handlers Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 15:05   ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 15:15     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 15:32   ` [patch net-next-2.6 8/8 v2] " Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 16:56     ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-03-05 22:07       ` Jiri Pirko
2011-03-05 22:18         ` Nicolas de Pesloüan

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