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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
Cc: Robert Love <robert.w.love@intel.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	"Pekka Savola (ipv6)" <pekkas@netcore.fi>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devel@open-fcoe.org" <devel@open-fcoe.org>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/36] scsi,rcu: convert call_rcu(fc_rport_free_rcu) to kfree_rcu()
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:32:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110324003223.GF2322@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1300920332.15899.45.camel@mulgrave.site>

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 05:45:32PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 15:24 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 09:05:51AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 23:50 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > The kfree_rcu() definition is as
> > > > follows:
> > > > 
> > > > #define kfree_rcu(ptr, rcu_head)					\
> > > > 	__kfree_rcu(&((ptr)->rcu_head), offsetof(typeof(*(ptr)), rcu_head))
> > > 
> > > Isn't this one of those cases where the obvious use of the interface is
> > > definitely wrong?
> > > 
> > > It's also another nasty pseudo C prototype.  I know we do this sort of
> > > thing for container_of et al, but I don't really think we want to extend
> > > it.
> > > 
> > > Why not make the interface take a pointer to the embedding structure and
> > > one to the rcu_head ... that way all pointer mathematics can be
> > > contained inside the RCU routines.
> > 
> > Hello, James,
> > 
> > If you pass in a pair of pointers, then it is difficult for RCU to detect
> > bugs where the two pointers are unrelated.  Yes, you can do some sanity
> > checks, but these get cumbersome and have corner cases where they can
> > be fooled.  In contrast, Lai's interface allows the compiler to do the
> > needed type checking -- unless the second argument is a field of type
> > struct rcu_head in the structure pointed to by the first argument, the
> > compiler will complain.
> > 
> > Either way, the pointer mathematics are buried in the RCU API.
> > 
> > Or am I missing something here?
> 
> No ... I like the utility ... I just dislike the inelegance of having to
> name a structure element in what looks like a C prototype.
> 
> I can see this proliferating everywhere since most of our reference
> counting release callbacks basically free the enclosing object ...

Indeed!  Improvements are welcome -- it is just that I am not convinced
that the dual-pointer approach is really an improvement.

The C preprocessor...  It is ugly, inelegant, painful, annoying, and
should have been strangled at birth -- but it is always there when you
need it!

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-24  0:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4D82D071.5020703@cn.fujitsu.com>
2011-03-18  3:39 ` [PATCH 01/36] net,rcu: convert call_rcu(free_dm_hw_stat) to kfree_rcu() Lai Jiangshan
     [not found] ` <4D82D3FF.2080303@cn.fujitsu.com>
2011-03-18  3:41   ` [PATCH 02/36] scsi,rcu: convert call_rcu(fc_rport_free_rcu) " Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-22 17:28     ` Robert Love
2011-03-23  6:50       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-23 11:22         ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]           ` <20110323112257.GD13806-6jwH94ZQLHl74goWV3ctuw@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-23 13:30             ` [PATCH 02/36] scsi, rcu: " Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-23 14:05         ` [PATCH 02/36] scsi,rcu: " James Bottomley
2011-03-23 22:24           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-23 22:45             ` James Bottomley
2011-03-24  0:32               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-03-23 23:19           ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-03-18  3:42   ` [PATCH 03/36] net,rcu: " Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-18 19:35     ` David Miller
2011-03-18  3:42   ` [PATCH 04/36] net,rcu: convert call_rcu(__leaf_info_free_rcu) " Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-18  3:42   ` [PATCH 05/36] block,rcu: convert call_rcu(disk_free_ptbl_rcu_cb) " Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-18  3:43   ` [PATCH 06/36] net,rcu: convert call_rcu(__gen_kill_estimator) " Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-18 19:35     ` David Miller
2011-03-18  3:44   ` [PATCH 07/36] net,rcu: convert call_rcu(ip_mc_list_reclaim) " Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-18  3:44   ` [PATCH 08/36] net,rcu: convert call_rcu(ip_sf_socklist_reclaim) " Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-18  3:45   ` [PATCH 09/36] net,rcu: convert call_rcu(ip_mc_socklist_reclaim) " Lai Jiangshan
     [not found]   ` <4D82D4C2.8020503@cn.fujitsu.com>
2011-03-18  6:59     ` [PATCH 05/36] block,rcu: convert call_rcu(disk_free_ptbl_rcu_cb) " Jens Axboe
2011-03-18 11:20       ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-03-18 15:24   ` [PATCH 01/36] net,rcu: convert call_rcu(free_dm_hw_stat) " Neil Horman
2011-03-18 19:35   ` David Miller
     [not found]   ` <4D82D4AA.2080601@cn.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]     ` <4D82D4AA.2080601-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 19:35       ` [PATCH 04/36] net, rcu: convert call_rcu(__leaf_info_free_rcu) " David Miller
     [not found]   ` <4D82D508.5080901@cn.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]     ` <4D82D508.5080901-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 19:35       ` [PATCH 07/36] net, rcu: convert call_rcu(ip_mc_list_reclaim) " David Miller
     [not found]   ` <4D82D52E.1010501@cn.fujitsu.com>
2011-03-18 19:35     ` [PATCH 08/36] net,rcu: convert call_rcu(ip_sf_socklist_reclaim) " David Miller
     [not found]   ` <4D82D544.6090509@cn.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]     ` <4D82D544.6090509-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 19:36       ` [PATCH 09/36] net, rcu: convert call_rcu(ip_mc_socklist_reclaim) " David Miller

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