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* Re: Loopback and Nagle's algorithm
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@ 2011-04-12  9:42 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
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From: Alejandro Riveira Fernández @ 2011-04-12  9:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Adam McLaurin; +Cc: linux-kernel, netdev

El Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:37:49 -0400
"Adam McLaurin" <lkml@irotas.net> escribió:

 Just CCing netdev

> I understand that disabling Nagle's algorithm via TCP_NODELAY will
> generally degrade throughput. However, in my scenario (150 byte
> messages, sending as fast as possible), the actual throughput penalty
> over the network is marginal (maybe 10% at most).
> 
> However, when I disable Nagle's algorithm when connecting over loopback,
> the performance hit is *huge* - 10x reduction in throughput.
> 
> The question is, why is disabling Nagle's algorithm on loopback so much
> worse w.r.t. throughput? Is there anything I can do to reduce the
> incurred throughput penalty?
> 
> Thanks,
> Adam
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* Re: Loopback and Nagle's algorithm
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@ 2011-04-12 13:08       ` Eric Dumazet
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From: Eric Dumazet @ 2011-04-12 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jiri Kosina; +Cc: Adam McLaurin, Will Newton, linux-kernel, netdev

Le mardi 12 avril 2011 à 13:54 +0200, Jiri Kosina a écrit :
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Adam McLaurin wrote:
> 
> > > It may be caused by an increase in context switch rate, as both sender
> > > and receiver are on the same machine.
> > 
> > I'm not sure that's what's happening, since the box where I'm running
> > this test has 8 physical CPU's and 32 cores in total.
> 
> Have you tried firing up the testcase under perf, to see what it reveals 
> as the bottleneck?
> 
CC netdev

This rings a bell here.

I suspect we hit mod_timer() / lock_timer_base()  because of delack
timer constantly changing.

I remember raising this point last year :

http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2010/5/20/6277741

David answer : 
http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2010/6/2/6278430

I am afraid no change was done...

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