From: Kurt Van Dijck <kurt.van.dijck-/BeEPy95v10@public.gmane.org>
To: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: socketcan-core-0fE9KPoRgkgATYTw5x5z8w@public.gmane.org,
netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 5/6] j1939: rename NAME to UUID?
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:54:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110421065445.GA332@kurt.e-circ.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DAEBC94.5020009-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
>
> Kurt, the problem for me is, that you constantly state that your approach is
> the best. For me it is not.
no userspace counterpart can handle transient conditions like kernel can...
>
> The major issue in your implementation is the lack of the possibility to
> simulate several j1939 ECUs on one Linux host talking to each other via
> virtual CAN busses to create a complete j1939 network. And so far you did not
> address this request.
Oliver,
I tried to explain already several times that this stack _IS_ capable
of having several j1939 ECU's on one linux host, talking to any CAN bus, virtual
or physical.
I agree that if this was not the case, your arguments would have been valid.
The major improvement (IMHO) of my in-kernel j1939 stack is that several
applications can also contribute to the same ECU, without protocol violations.
side note: this is not even a matter introduced with address claiming :-0
>
ever done this?
$ ip addr add 192.168.0.1/24 dev eth0
$ ip addr add 192.168.1.1/24 dev eth0
Likewise I do now:
$ ip addr add j1939 0x20 dev can0
$ ip addr add j1939 0x21 dev can0
I see no problem there.
With address claiming:
$ ip addr add j1939 name 0123456789ABCDE0 dev can0
$ ip addr add j1939 name 0123456789ABCDE1 dev can0
and my daemon to choose addresses (posted later today on can-utils)
$ jacd --range 0x20-0x30 0123456789ABCDE0 can0
$ jacd --range 0x20-0x30 0123456789ABCDE1 can0
No, no typos here. both ECU's will resolve conflicts on CAN, on the same host!
The second will ECU will finally get 0x21, _as should be_ per J1939.
Oliver,
The way I understand your request, this addressed that. What did I miss up to here?
I skipped a lot of your original email since the issue addressed here seems to
be source of misunderstanding.
Kind regards,
Kurt
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-21 6:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-14 13:20 [RFC v3 0/6] CAN: add SAE J1939 protocol Kurt Van Dijck
[not found] ` <20110314132004.GA333-MxZ6Iy/zr/UdbCeoMzGj59i2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 13:24 ` [RFC v3 1/6] can: extend sockaddr_can to include j1939 members Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-14 14:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-14 14:53 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-14 13:26 ` [RFC v3 2/6] can: add rtnetlink support Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-14 13:47 ` [RFC v3 3/6] can: make struct proto const Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-14 14:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-14 15:02 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-14 16:42 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-14 17:17 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-15 21:28 ` Oliver Hartkopp
[not found] ` <4D7FD9ED.1080004-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-15 22:12 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-15 22:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-14 13:56 ` [RFC v3 4/6] j1939: initial import of SAE J1939 Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-14 13:59 ` [RFC v3 5/6] j1939: add documentation and MAINTAINERS Kurt Van Dijck
[not found] ` <20110314135917.GF333-MxZ6Iy/zr/UdbCeoMzGj59i2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-20 15:56 ` Oliver Hartkopp
[not found] ` <4D8623BE.2080807-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-25 13:55 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-29 14:29 ` SAE J1939: update Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-29 19:41 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-04-13 4:49 ` [RFC v3 5/6] j1939: rename NAME to UUID? Kurt Van Dijck
[not found] ` <20110413044928.GA289-ozGf4kBk5synFtIcQ8t7k3L8HoS0Hn3T@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-15 17:57 ` Oliver Hartkopp
[not found] ` <4DA88705.5040203-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-20 7:10 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-04-20 7:24 ` Kurt Van Dijck
[not found] ` <20110420072439.GB332-ozGf4kBk5synFtIcQ8t7k3L8HoS0Hn3T@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-20 10:59 ` Oliver Hartkopp
[not found] ` <4DAEBC94.5020009-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-21 6:54 ` Kurt Van Dijck [this message]
2011-04-22 14:18 ` Kurt Van Dijck
[not found] ` <20110422141832.GB334-ozGf4kBk5synFtIcQ8t7k3L8HoS0Hn3T@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-22 15:14 ` Oliver Hartkopp
[not found] ` <4DB19B46.4000306-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-23 5:51 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-14 14:05 ` [RFC v3 6/6] iproute2: add CAN and J1939 rtnetlink support Kurt Van Dijck
2011-03-15 9:23 ` [RFC v3 0/6] CAN: add SAE J1939 protocol Kurt Van Dijck
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