From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 10/14] virtio_net: limit xmit polling
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 08:50:29 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110525055029.GB26352@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8762ozk1qd.fsf-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:58:26AM +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2011 14:19:00 +0300, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:37:15AM +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > Can we hit problems with OOM? Sure, but no worse than now...
> > > The problem is that this "virtqueue_get_capacity()" returns the worst
> > > case, not the normal case. So using it is deceptive.
> > >
> >
> > Maybe just document this?
>
> Yes, but also by renaming virtqueue_get_capacity(). Takes it from a 3
> to a 6 on the API hard-to-misuse scale.
>
> How about, virtqueue_min_capacity()? Makes the reader realize something
> weird is going on.
Absolutely. Great idea.
> > I still believe capacity really needs to be decided
> > at the virtqueue level, not in the driver.
> > E.g. with indirect each skb uses a single entry: freeing
> > 1 small skb is always enough to have space for a large one.
> >
> > I do understand how it seems a waste to leave direct space
> > in the ring while we might in practice have space
> > due to indirect. Didn't come up with a nice way to
> > solve this yet - but 'no worse than now :)'
>
> Agreed.
>
> > > > I just wanted to localize the 2+MAX_SKB_FRAGS logic that tries to make
> > > > sure we have enough space in the buffer. Another way to do
> > > > that is with a define :).
> > >
> > > To do this properly, we should really be using the actual number of sg
> > > elements needed, but we'd have to do most of xmit_skb beforehand so we
> > > know how many.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Rusty.
> >
> > Maybe I'm confused here. The problem isn't the failing
> > add_buf for the given skb IIUC. What we are trying to do here is stop
> > the queue *before xmit_skb fails*. We can't look at the
> > number of fragments in the current skb - the next one can be
> > much larger. That's why we check capacity after xmit_skb,
> > not before it, right?
>
> No, I was confused... More coffee!
>
> Thanks,
> Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-25 5:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-19 23:10 [PATCHv2 00/14] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <cover.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 01/14] virtio: event index interface Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <995d19795d84a76f9836f4d9484fb4ef8eae36e9.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-21 2:29 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 02/14] virtio ring: inline function to check for events Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <16ce853af7a80d0f7cb0c1118ba8e19adc184ad0.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-21 2:29 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 03/14] virtio_ring: support event idx feature Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <960f3e3b260844011b004c81dbda0661c977b79a.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-21 2:31 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 04/14] vhost: support event index Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <b227febf884dcf82dee9233e581c6216d0e9daa5.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-21 2:31 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 05/14] virtio_test: " Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <fbed57582b9e8d97c11f889937ea65f42eb03da2.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-21 2:32 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 06/14] virtio: add api for delayed callbacks Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <8f343dcaa996f6b10499468c49508ba9d6fb6f5a.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-21 2:33 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 07/14] virtio_net: delay TX callbacks Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 08/14] virtio_ring: Add capacity check API Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 09/14] virtio_net: fix TX capacity checks using new API Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <42ca2494c92f572388e3ab4c6f613dd4f038361b.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-21 2:13 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 10/14] virtio_net: limit xmit polling Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <aced8619c07018b5495f9ceb2c02d4fbf897a098.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-21 2:19 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <877h9kvlps.fsf-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-22 12:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20110522121008.GA12155-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-23 2:07 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <87boyutbjg.fsf-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-23 11:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20110523111900.GB27212-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-24 7:54 ` Krishna Kumar2
[not found] ` <OFEED174CD.D3C9A726-ON6525789A.002661D5-6525789A.002B26ED-xthvdsQ13ZrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-24 9:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 9:27 ` Krishna Kumar2
[not found] ` <OF69E520FD.340352AC-ON6525789A.003308A2-6525789A.0033F2DF-xthvdsQ13ZrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-24 11:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20110524112901.GB17087-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-24 12:50 ` Krishna Kumar2
[not found] ` <OF2D4A7890.FFA91132-ON6525789A.0043E0AC-6525789A.00464690-xthvdsQ13ZrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-24 13:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25 1:28 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <8762ozk1qd.fsf-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-25 5:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-05-25 1:35 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <8739k3k1fb.fsf-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-25 6:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20110525060759.GC26352-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-26 3:28 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <87vcwyjg2w.fsf-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-28 20:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20110528200204.GB7046-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-30 6:27 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 11/14] virtio: don't delay avail index update Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <33d7df119ccbedc9b54fbe4b674076b4f7ba3499.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-21 2:26 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 13/14] virtio_test: update for 64 bit features Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 14/14] vhost: fix " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-20 7:51 ` [PATCHv2 00/14] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements Rusty Russell
2011-05-26 15:32 ` [PERF RESULTS] " Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 15:42 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-26 16:21 ` Krishna Kumar2
[not found] ` <OFF9D0E604.B865A006-ON6525789C.00597010-6525789C.0059987A@LocalDomain>
2011-05-26 16:29 ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 12/14] virtio: 64 bit features Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:20 ` [PATCHv2 00/14] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements David Miller
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