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From: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
To: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>
Cc: U Bhaskar-B22300 <B22300@freescale.com>,
	Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	"socketcan-core@lists.berlios.de"
	<socketcan-core@lists.berlios.de>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
	<Devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock source.
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 09:09:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110809140901.GX4926@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E413E3A.7050502@grandegger.com>

On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 04:03:38PM +0200, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
> On 08/09/2011 03:44 PM, U Bhaskar-B22300 wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Robin Holt [mailto:holt@sgi.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:06 PM
> >> To: Wolfgang Grandegger
> >> Cc: Robin Holt; U Bhaskar-B22300; socketcan-core@lists.berlios.de;
> >> netdev@vger.kernel.org; Devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org; Marc Kleine-
> >> Budde
> >> Subject: Re: [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock source.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 03:03:50PM +0200, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
> >>> On 08/09/2011 02:49 PM, Robin Holt wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 12:41:39PM +0000, U Bhaskar-B22300 wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Wolfgang Grandegger [mailto:wg@grandegger.com]
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:19 PM
> >>>>>> To: U Bhaskar-B22300
> >>>>>> Cc: Marc Kleine-Budde; socketcan-core@lists.berlios.de;
> >>>>>> netdev@vger.kernel.org; Devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock source.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 08/09/2011 11:27 AM, U Bhaskar-B22300 wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Wolfgang Grandegger [mailto:wg@grandegger.com]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 2:03 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: U Bhaskar-B22300
> >>>>>>>> Cc: Marc Kleine-Budde; socketcan-core@lists.berlios.de;
> >>>>>>>> netdev@vger.kernel.org; Devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock
> >> source.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Bhaskar,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 08/09/2011 09:57 AM, U Bhaskar-B22300 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: Marc Kleine-Budde [mailto:mkl@pengutronix.de]
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:23 AM
> >>>>>>>>>> To: Wolfgang Grandegger
> >>>>>>>>>> Cc: socketcan-core@lists.berlios.de; netdev@vger.kernel.org; U
> >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar- B22300
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock
> >> source.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/08/2011 05:33 PM, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ACK - The device tree bindings as in mainline's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Documentation is a
> >>>>>>>>>> mess.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If the powerpc guys are happy with a clock interfaces based
> >>>>>>>>>>>> approach somewhere in arch/ppc, I'm more than happy to
> >> remove:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - fsl,flexcan-clock-source (not implemented, even in the fsl
> >>>>>>>>>>>> driver)
> >>>>>>>>> [Bhaskar]I have pushed the FlexCAN series of patches, It
> >>>>>>>>> contains the usage of all the fields posted in the FlexCAN
> >>>>>>>>> bindings at
> >>>>>>>>> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-3.0.y.gi
> >>>>>>>>> t;a=b
> >>>>>>>>> lo
> >>>>>>>>> b;f=Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/can/fsl-flexcan.txt;h
> >>>>>>>>> =1a72
> >>>>>>>>> 9f
> >>>>>>>>> 089866259ef82d0db5893ff7a8c54d5ccf;hb=94ed5b4788a7cdbe68bc7cb85
> >>>>>>>>> 16972
> >>>>>>>>> cb
> >>>>>>>>> ebdc8274
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As Marc already pointed out, Robin already has a much more
> >>>>>>>> advanced patch stack in preparation. Especially your patches do
> >>>>>>>> not care about the already existing Flexcan core on the
> >> Freescale's ARM socks.
> >>>>>>> [Bhaskar] No, the patches are taking care of the existing ARM
> >>>>>> functionality.
> >>>>>>> 	I have not tested on the ARM based board, but the patches are
> >>>>>>> made
> >>>>>> in a
> >>>>>>>       Manner that it should not break the ARM based functionality.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - fsl,flexcan-clock-divider \__ replace with code in
> >> arch/ppc, or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - clock-frequency           /   a single clock-frequency
> >> attribute
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> In the "net-next-2.6" tree there is also:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  $ grep flexcan arch/powerpc/boots/dts/*.dts
> >>>>>>>>>>>   p1010rdb.dts:			fsl,flexcan-clock-source =
> >>>>>>>> "platform";
> >>>>>>>>>>>   p1010rdb.dts:			fsl,flexcan-clock-source =
> >>>>>>>> "platform";
> >>>>>>>>>>>   p1010si.dtsi:			compatible = "fsl,flexcan-
> >> v1.0";
> >>>>>>>>>>>   p1010si.dtsi:			fsl,flexcan-clock-divider =
> >> <2>;
> >>>>>>>>>>>   p1010si.dtsi:			compatible = "fsl,flexcan-
> >> v1.0";
> >>>>>>>>>>>   p1010si.dtsi:			fsl,flexcan-clock-divider =
> >> <2>;
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Especially the fsl,flexcan-clock-divider = <2>; might make
> >>>>>>>>>>> people think, that they could set something else.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [Bhaskar] As it is mentioned in the Flexcan bindings, the need
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>> fsl,flexcan-clock-divider = <2>;
> >>>>>>>>> 	    But I kept it as "2" because FlexCan clock source is the
> >>>>>>>> platform clock and it is CCB/2
> >>>>>>>>> 	    If the "2" is misleading, the bindings can be changed or
> >>>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>> text can be written to make the meaning of "2"
> >>>>>>>>>           Understandable , Please suggest ..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The clock source and frequency is fixed. Why do we need an extra
> >>>>>>>> properties for that. We have panned to remove these bogus
> >>>>>>>> bindings from the Linux kernel, which sneaked in *without* any
> >>>>>>>> review on the relevant mailing lists (at least I have not
> >>>>>>>> realized any posting). We do not think they are really needed.
> >>>>>>>> They just confuse the user. We also prefer to use the
> >>>>>>>> compatibility string "fsl,flexcan" instead "fsl,flexcan-v1.0".
> >>>>>>>> It's unusual to add a version number, which is for the Flexcan
> >>>>>>>> on the PowerPC cores only, I assume, but there will be device
> >>>>>>>> tree for ARM soon. A proper compatibility string would be
> >> "fsl,p1010-flexcan" if we really need to distinguish.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [Bhaskar] About clock source.. There can be two sources of clock
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>> the CAN.
> >>>>>>> 	Oscillator or the platform clock, but at present only
> >> platform
> >>>>>> clock is supported
> >>>>>>> 	in P1010.If we remove the fsl,flexcan-clock-source property,
> >> we
> >>>>>> will lost the flexibility
> >>>>>>> 	of changing the clock source ..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>           About clock-frequency... it is also not fixed. It
> >>>>>>> depends on
> >>>>>> the platform clock which in turns
> >>>>>>>           Depends on the CCB clock. So it will be better to keep
> >>>>>>> clock-
> >>>>>> frequency property which is getting fixed via u-boot.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The frequency is fixed to CCB-frequency / 2. Will that ever
> >>>>>> change? What can we expect from future Flexcan hardware? Will it
> >>>>>> support further clock sources?
> >>>>> [Bhaskar] Yes the frequency will always be CCB-frequency/2.Even if
> >> the CCB gets changed that will be taken care by the u-boot fixup code for
> >>>>> 	clock-frequency. clock-frequency is not filled by somebody in the
> >> dts file. It will be done by u-boot.
> >>>>> 	For clock source,I can't say right now, that's why I have kept a
> >> property for this in the can node. So that in future, we need to fill it
> >>>>> 	appropriately
> >>>>
> >>>> Speaking of the dts file, I have left the p1010si.dtsi file with the
> >>>> fsl,flexcan-v1.0 .compatible definition.  The flexcan folks (IIRC
> >>>> Wolfgang) objected to that as it does not follow the standard which
> >>>> should be just fsl,flexcan.
> >>>>
> >>>> How would you like to change that?  Should I add it as part of this
> >>>> patch, add another patch to the series, or let you take care of it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, I assume the uboot project will need to be changed as well to
> >>>> reflect the corrected name.
> >>>
> >>> I think you should provide patches within this series to cleanup the
> >>> obsolete stuff, dts and binding doc.
> >>
> >> It reads to me that the binding doc now reduces just the required
> >> properties.  Should I remove the file entirely?
> > [Bhaskar] I think the binding doc should atleast be present with the required properties to give the clarity
> >  	    about the CAN functionality
> > 		can0@1c000 {
> >                  compatible = "fsl,flexcan";
> >                  reg = <0x1c000 0x1000>;
> >                  interrupts = <48 0x2>;
> >                  interrupt-parent = <&mpic>;
> >                  clock-frequency = <fixed by u-boot>;
> >          	}; 
> 
> Yes, I also find the introduction is quite useful, with some related
> correction.

I am not sure what is useful.  The clock source bits are all wrong.
When that is removed, you end up with a discussion about the prescaler
which is actually related to the flexcan.c file and has nothing
to do with the device node.  Maybe I am just going back into my
not-communicating-well mode.  Could you follow up with what you think
belongs in the introduction of the binding file?

Thanks,
Robin

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-09 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-06 14:34 [RFC 0/4] [flexcan] Add support for powerpc (freescale p1010) -V6 Robin Holt
2011-08-06 14:34 ` [RFC 2/5] [flexcan] Abstract off read/write for big/little endian Robin Holt
2011-08-06 14:34 ` [RFC 3/5] [flexcan] Add of_match to platform_device definition Robin Holt
     [not found] ` <1312641270-6018-1-git-send-email-holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-06 14:34   ` [RFC 1/5] [flexcan] Replace mach/clock.h with linux/clkdev.h Robin Holt
2011-08-06 14:34   ` [RFC 4/5] [flexcan] Add support for FLEXCAN_DEBUG Robin Holt
2011-08-06 14:34   ` [RFC 5/5] [powerpc] Implement a p1010rdb clock source Robin Holt
     [not found]     ` <1312641270-6018-6-git-send-email-holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08  8:37       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]         ` <4E3FA066.3020301-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08  9:15           ` Robin Holt
2011-08-08 11:31           ` Robin Holt
     [not found]             ` <20110808113136.GS4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 12:07               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                 ` <4E3FD184.1070706-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 12:48                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                     ` <20110808124842.GT4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 13:00                       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                         ` <4E3FDDD6.1020802-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 13:16                           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 13:08               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                 ` <4E3FDFC9.7080508-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 13:44                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                     ` <4E3FE844.6090005-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:03                       ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                         ` <20110808140340.GV4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:19                           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                             ` <4E3FF068.6070905-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:29                               ` Robin Holt
2011-08-08 14:19                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 13:56                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                     ` <20110808135630.GU4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:16                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                         ` <4E3FEFBB.9050103-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:21                           ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                             ` <20110808142153.GW4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:37                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                 ` <4E3FF4B8.2010603-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:44                                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                     ` <20110808144424.GY4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 14:59                                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                         ` <4E3FF9EA.6030601-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:09                                           ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                             ` <20110808150925.GA4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:18                                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                 ` <4E3FFE61.4090109-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:22                                                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                     ` <4E3FFF41.7030401-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:38                                                       ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                         ` <20110808153835.GC4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:50                                                           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 15:23                                                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-08-08 15:25                                                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                     ` <20110808152549.GB4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:27                                                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 15:14                                           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                                             ` <4E3FFD5B.7080000-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:33                                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                 ` <4E4001E1.3030508-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:55                                                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                     ` <20110808155540.GD4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:59                                                       ` Robin Holt
2011-08-08 16:03                                                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                         ` <4E4008BA.6030303-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 16:08                                                           ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                             ` <20110808160810.GF4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 18:37                                                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                                 ` <4E402CF1.1040300-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 19:14                                                                   ` Robin Holt
2011-08-08 20:27                                                                     ` Robin Holt
2011-08-08 18:53                                                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-08-09  7:57                                                     ` U Bhaskar-B22300
     [not found]                                                       ` <9C64B7751C3BCA41B64A68E23005A7BE1B9D6C-TcFNo7jSaXPiTqIcKZ1S2K4g8xLGJsHaLnY5E4hWTkheoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09  8:13                                                         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-08-09  9:34                                                           ` U Bhaskar-B22300
     [not found]                                                             ` <9C64B7751C3BCA41B64A68E23005A7BE1BEFCE-TcFNo7jSaXM0vywKSws3iq4g8xLGJsHaLnY5E4hWTkheoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 10:41                                                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-09  8:32                                                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-09  9:27                                                           ` U Bhaskar-B22300
2011-08-09 10:48                                                             ` Wolfgang Grandegger
     [not found]                                                               ` <4E41108F.1090104-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 12:41                                                                 ` U Bhaskar-B22300
     [not found]                                                                   ` <9C64B7751C3BCA41B64A68E23005A7BE1C3552-TcFNo7jSaXPiTqIcKZ1S2K4g8xLGJsHaLnY5E4hWTkheoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 12:49                                                                     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20110809124919.GS4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 13:03                                                                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-09 13:17                                                                           ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                                           ` <4E413036.5080207-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 13:35                                                                             ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20110809133531.GV4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 13:44                                                                                 ` U Bhaskar-B22300
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <9C64B7751C3BCA41B64A68E23005A7BE1C4746-TcFNo7jSaXPiTqIcKZ1S2K4g8xLGJsHaLnY5E4hWTkheoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 13:50                                                                                     ` Robin Holt
2011-08-09 14:03                                                                                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-09 14:09                                                                                     ` Robin Holt [this message]
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <20110809140901.GX4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 14:14                                                                                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-09 12:50                                                                     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
     [not found]                                                                       ` <4E412D26.9020608-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 12:54                                                                         ` U Bhaskar-B22300
2011-08-09 13:19                                                                     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 14:48                                   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                     ` <20110808144808.GZ4926-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-08 15:16                                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-08-08 13:05             ` Marc Kleine-Budde

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