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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
To: Sven-Haegar Koch <haegar@sdinet.de>
Cc: "Nicolas de Pesloüan" <nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com>,
	"Marc Haber" <mh+netdev@zugschlus.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bridge stays down until a port is added
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:43:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110926174319.0fa59e1f@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1109270224220.30860@aurora>

On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 02:28:42 +0200 (CEST)
Sven-Haegar Koch <haegar@sdinet.de> wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Sep 2011, Nicolas de Pesloüan wrote:
> 
> > Le 26/09/2011 22:05, Stephen Hemminger a écrit :
> > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:02:21 +0200
> > > Nicolas de Pesloüan<nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > Stephen,
> > > > 
> > > > What do you think about a generic per-interface option that would cause
> > > > bind() to accept tentative
> > > > address hold by a particular interface? This of course violate IPv6
> > > > principle, but we are talking
> > > > about interfaces that are unable to do DAD, either permanently or until
> > > > something happens on the
> > > > underlying device.
> > > > 
> > > > echo 1>  /sys/class/net/br0/allow_bind_on_tentative_address
> > > > echo 1>  /sys/class/net/dummy0/allow_bind_on_tentative_address
> > > > echo 1>  /sys/class/net/wlan0/allow_bind_on_tentative_address
> > > > and so on...
> > > > 
> > > > And we may possibly automatically reset this option to 0 if DAD eventually
> > > > causes the address to be
> > > > considered duplicate.
> > > 
> > > The issue is that if DAD rejects a duplicate, the socket is dead and
> > > application is
> > > out of luck.
> > 
> > Yes, and this is by design. Setting the option would state "I want to allow
> > early bind(), prior to DAD and I assume the fact that a possible duplicate
> > address will cause the corresponding socket to be dead and so the using
> > application."
> 
> How about a setting just completely disabling this 
> duplicate-address-detection crap?
>

Already multiple ways to disable it:
  1. Set /proc/sys/net/ipv6/XXX/accept_dad to 0
  2. Set flag when assigning address with 'ip add add ... nodad' 
  3. Set IFF_NOARP on the interface (done by drivers)

      reply	other threads:[~2011-09-27  0:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-11  7:06 Bridge stays down until a port is added Marc Haber
2011-08-11 15:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-08-11 20:54   ` Marc Haber
2011-08-11 22:41     ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-08-12 12:22     ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2011-08-20  9:47       ` Marc Haber
2011-08-20 16:30         ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-08-21 12:13           ` Marc Haber
2011-08-22 15:57             ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-09-17 20:42   ` Marc Haber
2011-09-20 20:20     ` Dan Williams
2011-09-25  8:25       ` Marc Haber
2011-09-26 15:47         ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-09-26 20:02           ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-09-26 20:05             ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-09-26 20:56               ` Ben Hutchings
2011-09-26 22:12               ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-09-26 22:42                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-09-27  0:28                 ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2011-09-27  0:43                   ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]

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