From: Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, timo.teras@iki.fi
Subject: Re: dst->obsolete has become pointless
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:34:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111108093424.GG22141@secunet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111104.230910.520924516201406800.davem@davemloft.net>
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 11:09:10PM -0400, David Miller wrote:
>
> While researching the things unearthed by Steffen Klassert wrt. PMTU
> handling in the current tree I went to do some research on what the
> real story is wrt. dst->obsolete.
>
> And sure enough EVERY SINGLE ipv4 and ipv6 route is created with
> obsolete set to -1, so we unconditionally always invoke ->dst_check().
>
> This makes it completely pointless as an optimization to avoid calling
> the dst_ops->dst_check() method. It never triggers.
>
> This stems from Timo's change to make route expiry properly visible
> to IPSEC stacked routes:
>
> --
> commit d11a4dc18bf41719c9f0d7ed494d295dd2973b92
> Author: Timo Teräs <timo.teras@iki.fi>
> Date: Thu Mar 18 23:20:20 2010 +0000
>
> ipv4: check rt_genid in dst_check
> ...
> --
>
> Only DecNET creates routes with obsolete initially set to zero, and
> therefore only hits ->dst_check() when dst_free is invoked on the route
> during a flush of the decnet routing tables.
>
> And actually this is how ipv4 operated before we started using
> generation counts instead of flushing the entire table. IPV6 seems to
> always have used the FIB6 tree serial numbers for expiration checking
> and therefore always set obsolete to -1 on new routes.
>
> So we can't just get rid of the dst->obsolete check in dst_check() and
> __sk_dst_check() because that will break DecNET because DecNET's
> ->dst_check() handler assumes that if it was called then the route
> is obsolete and it just plainly returns NULL to tell the caller the
> route is in fact invalid.
>
I don't know what to do with DecNET, but we probaply need to decide
about the future of dst->obsolete before we can fix the ipv4 PMTU
problems. Possible fixes might depend on whether ->dst_check() is
always invoked or not.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-08 9:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-05 3:09 dst->obsolete has become pointless David Miller
2011-11-08 9:34 ` Steffen Klassert [this message]
2011-11-08 17:20 ` David Miller
2011-11-08 18:59 ` David Miller
2011-11-09 12:49 ` Joe Perches
2011-11-09 19:20 ` David Miller
2011-11-09 23:56 ` Joe Perches
2011-11-10 0:24 ` David Miller
2011-11-10 0:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-10 0:47 ` David Miller
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