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From: David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: equinox@diac24.net, hans.schillstrom@ericsson.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, ebiederm@xmission.com
Subject: Re: RFC Hanging clean-up of a namespace
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:03:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120119210352.GA3347849@jupiter.n2.diac24.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120119.152752.318442465605898328.davem@davemloft.net>

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 03:27:52PM -0500, David Miller wrote:
> From: David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net>
> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 02:31:05PM -0500, David Miller wrote:
> >> Then if a new netns is created that tries to reuse the address used by
> >> the mini-netns which hasn't cleared yet, you give -EAGAIN until all
> >> the timewaits expire.
> > 
> > The effect of this is that you end up being unable to reboot lxc based
> > virtualised hosts without waiting 2 minutes for the TCP timers to
> > expire. That sounds completely unacceptable to me.
> 
> All you are saying to me is that we are on a trajectory to major problems
> if it becomes pervasive that time-wait gets cancelled out and addresses
> then get reused so quickly.

On the funny side, RFC 793 page 28 actually states under "Knowing When
to Keep Quiet" that
  "To be sure that a TCP does not create a segment that carries a
  sequence number which may be duplicated by an old segment remaining in
  the network, the TCP must keep quiet for a maximum segment lifetime
  (MSL) before assigning any sequence numbers upon starting up or
  recovering from a crash in which memory of sequence numbers in use was
  lost. For this specification the MSL is taken to be 2 minutes."

Let's implement that, I bet people will love a 2 minute wait on TCP
connections after booting :-)


-David

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-19 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-19 11:07 RFC Hanging clean-up of a namespace Hans Schillstrom
2012-01-19 13:31 ` David Lamparter
2012-01-19 17:40 ` David Miller
2012-01-19 19:01   ` David Lamparter
2012-01-19 19:06     ` David Miller
2012-01-19 19:25       ` David Lamparter
2012-01-19 19:31         ` David Miller
2012-01-19 19:53           ` David Lamparter
2012-01-19 20:27             ` David Miller
2012-01-19 21:03               ` David Lamparter [this message]
2012-01-19 21:24               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-19 21:40                 ` David Lamparter
2012-01-19 21:40                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2012-01-19 21:47                   ` David Lamparter
2012-01-19 22:10                     ` Rick Jones
2012-01-19 22:16                     ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2012-01-19 22:37                     ` David Miller
2012-01-20  6:08                   ` Hans Schillstrom
2012-01-20 10:08                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-20 11:51                       ` Hans Schillstrom
2012-01-20 20:55                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-23  6:07                           ` Hans Schillstrom
2012-01-23  6:25                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-23  6:58                               ` Hans Schillstrom
2012-01-23  7:17                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-23  7:30                                   ` Hans Schillstrom
2012-01-23  7:55                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-19 19:40   ` Hans Schillström

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