From: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: <therbert@google.com>, <davem@davemloft.net>,
<eric.dumazet@gmail.com>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: make CONFIG_BQL actually end user configurable
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 23:09:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120306040921.GA24032@windriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw5HadpvBvtZvf6ArK3tdm=7Cs9sLYeHO9WN6rJOfPLPbA@mail.gmail.com>
[Re: [PATCH] net: make CONFIG_BQL actually end user configurable] On 05/03/2012 (Mon 19:45) Dave Taht wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>
> wrote:
>
> Without the defining string or help text, LKC won't ever bother
> to ask the end user for a setting for CONFIG_BQL -- you could
> delete it from your .config and run make oldconfig and not a
> thing would change -- it would still be silently re-enabled.
>
>
>
> My specific problems with BQL as currently implemented are:
>
> 1) There is no way to tell if a driver has it actually enabled or not
> at run time.
In a similar vein, I was interested in a (quick) way to tell if a
driver has it actually enabled *correctly*. I'd coded up the basic
changes for a common PPC NIC, but I was then left wondering what I
could use as a quick high-water-mark to see if I'd really managed
to implement it correctly via some level of real run-time testing.
If we want to get driver authors involved in adding support to their
favourite hardware, some description of a basic sanity test would
probably be a worthwhile description to have.
Paul.
--
>
> 2) Down below 100Mbit (the range that I care about) the controller
> can automatically allocate more ram than I would like for the outstanding
> data. I can (and do) easily control this by overriding the BQL default
> to something that makes things behave closer to what a ns2 model
> would predict (about 3k seems optimal) without affecting throughput.
>
> whether or not this is a problem in the real world is yet to be seen.
>
>
> While most people will have no reason to turn this off, the
> ability to do so can be useful for testing BQL support additions
> on previously BQL-unaware drivers and similar.
>
> The kconfig help text is largely taken from the original RFC
> patchset 0/N header sent to netdev@vger.kernel.org in fall 2011.
>
> Signed-off-by: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>
> ---
>
> [Apologies if this was explicitly blocked for a reason; I couldn't
> find a reason after searching netdev or threads at bufferbloat.net ]
>
> diff --git a/net/Kconfig b/net/Kconfig
> index e07272d..fd1d815 100644
> --- a/net/Kconfig
> +++ b/net/Kconfig
> @@ -241,10 +241,15 @@ config NETPRIO_CGROUP
> a per-interface basis
>
> config BQL
> - boolean
> + boolean "Byte Queue Limits"
> depends on SYSFS
> select DQL
> default y
> + ---help---
> + Byte queue limits are a mechanism to limit the size of the
> transmit
> + hardware queue on a NIC by a number of bytes. The goal of these
> byte
> + queue limits is to reduce latency caused by excessive queuing in
> + hardware without sacrificing throughput.
>
> config HAVE_BPF_JIT
> bool
> --
> 1.7.9.1
>
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>
>
> --
> Dave Täht
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-06 4:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-06 3:38 [PATCH] net: make CONFIG_BQL actually end user configurable Paul Gortmaker
[not found] ` <CAA93jw5HadpvBvtZvf6ArK3tdm=7Cs9sLYeHO9WN6rJOfPLPbA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-03-06 4:09 ` Paul Gortmaker [this message]
2012-03-06 5:57 ` Tom Herbert
2012-03-06 4:11 ` David Miller
2012-03-06 4:11 ` John Fastabend
2012-03-06 4:17 ` Paul Gortmaker
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