net/wanrouter?

net/wanrouter?

[Joe Perches]

Does anyone still use this?

Re: net/wanrouter?

[Jan Ceuleers]

On 05/22/2012 07:33 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
> Does anyone still use this?

I have the hardware (a Sangoma ADSL PCI card) but am no longer using it.
Also, as I remember, Sangoma stopped contributing to the upstream driver
many years ago while still actively developing the out-of-tree version.

Don't keep it on my account.

Thanks, Jan

Re: net/wanrouter?

[Stephen Hemminger]

On Thu, 24 May 2012 15:51:56 +0200
Jan Ceuleers <jan.ceuleers@computer.org> wrote:

> On 05/22/2012 07:33 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
> > Does anyone still use this?
> 
> I have the hardware (a Sangoma ADSL PCI card) but am no longer using it.
> Also, as I remember, Sangoma stopped contributing to the upstream driver
> many years ago while still actively developing the out-of-tree version.

The wanrouter code hasn't supported Sangoma hardware for a long time,
it got removed early in 2.6.

There are a bunch of old T1 and T3 cards there but I doubt any of them
are still for sale. But somebody is probably still using them.

Re: net/wanrouter?

[Joe Perches]

On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 09:13 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 15:51:56 +0200
> Jan Ceuleers <jan.ceuleers@computer.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 05/22/2012 07:33 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > Does anyone still use this?
> > 
> > I have the hardware (a Sangoma ADSL PCI card) but am no longer using it.
> > Also, as I remember, Sangoma stopped contributing to the upstream driver
> > many years ago while still actively developing the out-of-tree version.
> 
> The wanrouter code hasn't supported Sangoma hardware for a long time,
> it got removed early in 2.6.
> 
> There are a bunch of old T1 and T3 cards there but I doubt any of them
> are still for sale. But somebody is probably still using them.

I'm sure people are still using token ring
too, just not with recent kernels.

I think wanrouter is old and dusty and can
be removed just like TR.

Re: net/wanrouter?

[Ben Greear]

On 05/24/2012 09:22 AM, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 09:13 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 May 2012 15:51:56 +0200
>> Jan Ceuleers<jan.ceuleers@computer.org>  wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/22/2012 07:33 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
>>>> Does anyone still use this?
>>>
>>> I have the hardware (a Sangoma ADSL PCI card) but am no longer using it.
>>> Also, as I remember, Sangoma stopped contributing to the upstream driver
>>> many years ago while still actively developing the out-of-tree version.
>>
>> The wanrouter code hasn't supported Sangoma hardware for a long time,
>> it got removed early in 2.6.
>>
>> There are a bunch of old T1 and T3 cards there but I doubt any of them
>> are still for sale. But somebody is probably still using them.
>
> I'm sure people are still using token ring
> too, just not with recent kernels.
>
> I think wanrouter is old and dusty and can
> be removed just like TR.

I think you should mark it deprecated for a release or
two first, just in case.  Unless it is obviously very
broken or holding up other important work.

Lots of people that might be using this do not follow
the netdev mailing list...

Thanks,
Ben


-- 
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Candela Technologies Inc  http://www.candelatech.com

Re: net/wanrouter?

[Stephen Hemminger]

On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:32:43 -0700
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> wrote:

> On 05/24/2012 09:22 AM, Joe Perches wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 09:13 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >> On Thu, 24 May 2012 15:51:56 +0200
> >> Jan Ceuleers<jan.ceuleers@computer.org>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 05/22/2012 07:33 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
> >>>> Does anyone still use this?
> >>>
> >>> I have the hardware (a Sangoma ADSL PCI card) but am no longer using it.
> >>> Also, as I remember, Sangoma stopped contributing to the upstream driver
> >>> many years ago while still actively developing the out-of-tree version.
> >>
> >> The wanrouter code hasn't supported Sangoma hardware for a long time,
> >> it got removed early in 2.6.
> >>
> >> There are a bunch of old T1 and T3 cards there but I doubt any of them
> >> are still for sale. But somebody is probably still using them.
> >
> > I'm sure people are still using token ring
> > too, just not with recent kernels.
> >
> > I think wanrouter is old and dusty and can
> > be removed just like TR.
> 
> I think you should mark it deprecated for a release or
> two first, just in case.  Unless it is obviously very
> broken or holding up other important work.
> 

And add to Documentation/features-removal. Probably need a year of
warning period.

[PATCH] net/wanrouter: Deprecate and schedule for removal

[Joe Perches]

No one uses this on current kernels anymore.

Let it be known it's going to be removed eventually.

Signed-off-by: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
---
On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 09:37 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> And add to Documentation/features-removal. Probably need a year of
> warning period.

feature-removal-schedule.txt needs work,
but OK, here it is.

diff --git a/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt b/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt
index 1e69a81..145cded 100644
--- a/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt
+++ b/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt
@@ -567,3 +567,9 @@ Why:	Remount currently allows changing bound subsystems and
 	replaced with conventional fsnotify.
 
 ----------------------------
+
+What:	net/wanrouter/
+When:	June 2013
+Why:	Unsupported/unmaintained/unused since 2.6
+
+----------------------------
diff --git a/net/wanrouter/Kconfig b/net/wanrouter/Kconfig
index 61ceae0..a157a2e 100644
--- a/net/wanrouter/Kconfig
+++ b/net/wanrouter/Kconfig
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 #
 
 config WAN_ROUTER
-	tristate "WAN router"
+	tristate "WAN router (DEPRECATED)"
 	depends on EXPERIMENTAL
 	---help---
 	  Wide Area Networks (WANs), such as X.25, frame relay and leased

Re: [PATCH] net/wanrouter: Deprecate and schedule for removal

[David Miller]

From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 10:13:30 -0700

> No one uses this on current kernels anymore.
> 
> Let it be known it's going to be removed eventually.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>

Applied.