From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net: netdev_alloc_skb() use build_skb()
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:20:31 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120604172030.GA32205@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1338822064.2760.1834.camel@edumazet-glaptop>
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:01:04PM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 17:17 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>
> > bnx2 and tg3 both do skb_reserve of at least NET_SKB_PAD
> > after build_skb. You are saying it's not a must?
> >
>
> 32 would be the minimum. NETS_SKB_PAD is using a cache line (64 bytes
> on most x86 current cpus) to avoid using half a cache line.
OK so if we want to use build_skb we need to pad by at least
32 - 12 bytes or more likely 64-12. We lose 52 bytes per page
but save a copy of 128 bytes for medium sized packets.
> > Hmm so maybe we should teach the hypervisor to write data
> > out at an offset. Interesting.
> >
> > Another question is about very small packets truesize.
> > build_skb sets truesize to frag_size but isn't
> > this too small? We keep the whole page around, no?
>
> We keep one page per cpu, at most.
>
> For example on MTU=1500 and PAGE_SIZE=4096, one page is splitted into
> two fragments, of 1500 + NET_SKB_PAD + align(shared_info), so its good
> enough (this is very close from 2048 'truesize')
I see. virtio allocates full 4K pages which works well for GSO
but it means smaller packets would get large truesize
wasting lots of memory.
So maybe we should keep copying packets < 128 bytes.
> But yes, for some uses (wifi for example), we might use a full page per
> skb, yet underestimate skb->truesize. Hopefully we can track these uses
> and fix them.
>
> ath9k for example could be changed, to be able to reassemble up to 3
> frags instead of 2 frags, ie extending what did commit
> 0d95521ea74735826cb2e28bebf6a07392c75bfa (ath9k: use split rx
> buffers to get rid of order-1 skb allocations)
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-04 17:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-17 12:18 Stable regression with 'tcp: allow splice() to build full TSO packets' Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 15:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 15:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 15:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 16:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 16:40 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 16:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 16:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 17:22 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 17:34 ` [PATCH net-next] net: netdev_alloc_skb() use build_skb() Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 17:45 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-06-04 12:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 12:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 19:53 ` David Miller
2012-05-18 4:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 12:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 13:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 13:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 14:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 14:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 14:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 15:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 17:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-06-04 17:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 18:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 19:24 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 19:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 19:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 21:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-05 2:50 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 18:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 19:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 19:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 19:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 21:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-05 2:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 19:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 20:05 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 18:38 ` Stable regression with 'tcp: allow splice() to build full TSO packets' Ben Hutchings
2012-05-17 19:55 ` David Miller
2012-05-17 20:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 20:07 ` David Miller
2012-05-17 20:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 21:14 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 21:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 21:50 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 21:57 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 22:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 22:16 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 22:24 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:25 ` David Miller
2012-05-17 22:30 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:35 ` David Miller
2012-05-17 22:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:27 ` Joe Perches
2012-05-17 21:54 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 21:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 22:29 ` Willy Tarreau
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