From: Timo Teras <timo.teras@iki.fi>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: iptables CLAMP MSS to PMTU not working?
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:20:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120716092058.270f6008@vostro> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120716084946.67b91a69@vostro>
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:49:46 +0300 Timo Teras <timo.teras@iki.fi> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:24:19 +0300 Timo Teras <timo.teras@iki.fi>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:00:21 +0300 Timo Teras <timo.teras@iki.fi>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We recently noticed that CLAMPMSS to path MTU does not seem to be
> > > working properly. Most recently tested version is linux-3.3.6
> > > which does not work. linux-2.6.35 works for sure, but I suspect
> > > it to have broken somewhere around 3.0'ish with the inetpeer
> > > changes.
> > >
> > > In my case, the destination is on gre tunnel (that gets routed to
> > > Internet over IPsec transport mode).
> > >
> > > 'ip route' command verifies that in both boxes the path-MTU is
> > > detected properly. That, is on both cases the static route MTU is
> > > higher. And after large packets sent, ICMP frag-needed is received
> > > and the cache route is updated properly.
> > >
> > > On the new kernel, I get info like:
> > > # ip route get 10.x.x.x
> > > 10.x.x.x via 172.16.y.y dev gre1 src 172.16.z.z
> > > cache expires 68sec ipid 0x3153 mtu 1422
> >
> > CLAMP MSS sets MSS to 1432. Which implies MTU 1472. This matches the
> > gre1 interface MTU:
> >
> > 14: gre1: <UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1472 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
> >
> > So apparently CLAMPMSS is honoring the static route for gre1,
> > instead of the cached pmtu route.
> >
> > > And the older kernel:
> > > # ip route get 10.x.x.x
> > > 10.x.x.x via 172.16.y.y dev gre1 src 172.16.z.z
> > > cache expires 595sec ipid 0xd241 mtu 1422 advmss 1432
> > > hoplimit 64
> > >
> > > For some reason, iptables CLAMPMSS seems to set incorrect MSS for
> > > this route (or maybe it's using the static route instead?).
> >
> > And in this case MSS is set to 1382. That is, it's properly
> > calculated from the path MTU (1422-40=1382). I would expect the
> > advmss of the cached route to get updated on the TCP connects on
> > the older kernels (the above paste is after pinging with large
> > packets and no TCP connection done for the cached entry).
>
> Looking at the changelog, this would likely be side effect of:
>
> commit 261663b0ee2ee8e3947f4c11c1a08be18cd2cea1
> Author: Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>
> Date: Wed Nov 23 02:14:50 2011 +0000
>
> ipv4: Don't use the cached pmtu informations for input routes
>
> At least from performance side, it would be better if CLAMPMSS to PMTU
> would clamp to the learned, cached mtu.
Actually, this is worse. Since XFRM is ignored - it breaks
fragmentation for IPsec targets.
Could this be reverted?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-16 6:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-12 9:00 iptables CLAMP MSS to PMTU not working? Timo Teras
2012-07-12 10:24 ` Timo Teras
2012-07-16 5:49 ` Timo Teras
2012-07-16 6:20 ` Timo Teras [this message]
2012-07-16 7:23 ` Steffen Klassert
2012-07-16 7:55 ` Timo Teras
2012-07-16 10:08 ` Steffen Klassert
2012-07-16 10:53 ` Timo Teras
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20120716092058.270f6008@vostro \
--to=timo.teras@iki.fi \
--cc=davem@davemloft.net \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=steffen.klassert@secunet.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox