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From: Greg Rose <gregory.v.rose@intel.com>
To: Yuval Mintz <yuvalmin@broadcom.com>
Cc: "davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ariel Elior <ariele@broadcom.com>,
	Eilon Greenstein <eilong@broadcom.com>
Subject: Re: New commands to configure IOV features
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:53:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120919085306.00006af9@unknown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5059A767.2090307@broadcom.com>

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:07:19 +0300
Yuval Mintz <yuvalmin@broadcom.com> wrote:

> >>> Back to the original discussion though--has anyone got any ideas
> >>> about the best way to trigger runtime creation of VFs?  I don't
> >>> know what the binary APIs looks like, but via sysfs I could see
> >>> something like
> >>>
> >>> echo number_of_new_vfs_to_create >
> >>> /sys/bus/pci/devices/<address>/create_vfs
> >>>
> >>> Something else that occurred to me--is there buy-in from driver
> >>> maintainers?  I know the Intel ethernet drivers (what I'm most
> >>> familiar
> >>> with) would need to be substantially modified to support
> >>> on-the-fly addition of new vfs.  Currently they assume that the
> >>> number of vfs is known at module init time.
> >>
> >> Why couldn't rtnl_link_ops be used for this. It is already the
> >> preferred interface to create vlan's, bond devices, and other
> >> virtual devices? The one issue is that do the created VF's exist
> >> in kernel as devices or only visible to guest?
> > 
> > I would say that rtnl_link_ops are network oriented and not
> > appropriate for something like a storage controller or graphics
> > device, which are two other common SR-IOV capable devices.
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> We're currently fine-tuning our SRIOV support, which we will shortly
> send upstream.
> 
> We've encountered a problem though - all drivers currently supporting
> SRIOV do so with the usage of a module param: e.g., 'max_vfs' for
> ixgbe, 'num_vfs' for benet, etc.
> The SRIOV feature is disabled by default on all the drivers; it can
> only be enabled via usage of the module param.
> 
> We don't want the lack of SRIOV module param in the bnx2x driver to be
> the bottle-neck when we'll submit the SRIOV feature upstream, and we
> also don't want to enable SRIOV by default (following the same logic
> of other drivers; most users don't use SRIOV and it would strain their
> resources).
> 
> As we see it, there are several possible ways of solving the issue:
>  1. Use some network-tool (e.g., ethtool).
>  2. Implement a standard sysfs interface for PCIe devices, as SRIOV is
>     not solely network-related (this should be done via the PCI linux
>     tree).

I was not able to attend the Linux conference held at the end of August
myself but coworkers of mine here at Intel informed that method 2 here
seems to be the preferred approach.  Perhaps some folks who attended
the the conference can chime in with more specifics.

- Greg
LAN Access Division
Intel Corp.



>  3. Implement a module param in our bnx2x code.
> 
> We would like to know what's your preferred method for solving this
> issue, and to hear if you have another (better?) method by which we
> can add this kind of support.
> 
> Thanks,
> Yuval Mintz
> 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-19 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-07 11:17 New commands to configure IOV features Yuval Mintz
2012-05-07 15:16 ` Greg Rose
2012-06-26 12:21   ` Yuval Mintz
2012-06-26 16:13     ` Alexander Duyck
2012-06-26 17:19     ` Greg Rose
2012-07-01 11:09       ` Yuval Mintz
2012-07-09 18:39       ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-09 21:13         ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-16  9:19           ` Yuval Mintz
2012-07-17 19:29             ` Don Dutile
2012-07-17 21:08               ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-17 21:11                 ` David Miller
2012-07-20 15:27                   ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-20 15:56                     ` Don Dutile
2012-07-20 17:42                       ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-20 19:29                         ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-20 20:01                           ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-20 20:15                             ` Don Dutile
2012-07-20 23:42                             ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-21  0:52                               ` Rose, Gregory V
2012-07-23 14:03                               ` Don Dutile
2012-07-23 15:09                                 ` Chris Friesen
2012-07-23 17:06                                   ` Rose, Gregory V
2012-07-23 18:36                                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-07-23 18:40                                     ` Rose, Gregory V
2012-09-19 11:07                                       ` Yuval Mintz
2012-09-19 15:53                                         ` Greg Rose [this message]
2012-09-19 19:44                                           ` Ben Hutchings
2012-09-19 22:17                                             ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-19 22:46                                               ` Ben Hutchings
2012-09-20  0:19                                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-20  1:23                                                   ` Ben Hutchings
2012-09-20  2:27                                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-20  3:08                                                       ` Subhendu Ghosh
2012-09-20 15:39                                                     ` Rose, Gregory V
2012-09-21  5:50                                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-21 17:35                                                         ` Ben Hutchings
2012-09-21 19:23                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-21 18:06                                                         ` Don Dutile
2012-09-21 19:49                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2012-09-21 20:08                                                             ` Don Dutile
2012-09-23 15:49                                                               ` Yuval Mintz
2012-09-24 17:37                                                                 ` Don Dutile
2012-09-30  6:39                                                               ` Yuval Mintz
2012-10-01 14:12                                                                 ` Don Dutile
2012-09-19 17:49                                         ` David Miller
2012-07-23 16:37                                 ` Rose, Gregory V

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