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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: alignment faults in 3.6
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:19:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121012111906.GF21164@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121012110750.GE21164@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:07:50PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:00:03PM +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote:
> > Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> writes:
> > 
> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 08:11:42AM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > >> On Thursday 11 October 2012, Måns Rullgård wrote:
> > >> > > But, the IP header is expected to be aligned.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Everything tells the compiler the struct is perfectly aligned.  When the
> > >> > buggy driver passes a misaligned pointer, bad things happen.
> > >> 
> > >> Would it be appropriate to add a WARN_ON_ONCE() in the alignment fault path
> > >> then?
> > 
> > I think that's an excellent idea.
> 
> Well, I get the last word here and it's no.
> 
> > >> If all alignment faults in the kernel are caused by broken drivers,
> > >> that would at least give us some hope of finding those drivers while
> > >> at the same time not causing much overhead in the case where we need
> > >> to do the fixup in the meantime.
> > >
> > > No.  It is my understanding that various IP option processing can also
> > > cause the alignment fault handler to be invoked, even when the packet is
> > > properly aligned, and then there's jffs2/mtd which also relies upon
> > > alignment faults being fixed up.
> > 
> > As far as I'm concerned, this is all hearsay, and I've only ever heard
> > it from you.  Why can't you let those who care fix these bugs instead?
> 
> You know, I'm giving you the benefit of my _knowledge_ which has been
> built over the course of the last 20 years.  I've been in these
> discussions with networking people before.  I ended up having to develop
> the alignment fault handler because of those discussions.

Correction: San Mehat at Corel Inc had to develop it, but I was involved
in those discussions over it nevertheless, as I was the person who merged
the code and then subsequently maintained it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-12 11:19 UTC|newest]

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2012-10-11  2:27                       ` alignment faults in 3.6 Måns Rullgård
2012-10-11  2:34                         ` Jon Masters
2012-10-11  8:21                         ` David Laight
2012-10-11  8:53                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-11  9:45                           ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-11 10:00                             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 10:20                               ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-11 10:22                               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 10:32                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-11 10:49                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 10:56                                     ` Maxime Bizon
2012-10-11 11:28                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 11:47                                         ` Maxime Bizon
2012-10-11 11:54                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 12:00                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 12:51                                             ` Maxime Bizon
2012-10-11 12:59                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 12:28                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-10-11 12:40                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 13:20                                         ` Rob Herring
2012-10-11 13:32                                           ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-11 13:35                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-10-11 13:47                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 15:23                                             ` Rob Herring
2012-10-11 15:39                                               ` David Laight
2012-10-11 16:18                                                 ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-12  8:11                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-10-12  9:03                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-12 10:04                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-12 12:24                                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-12 11:00                                                       ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-12 11:07                                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-12 11:18                                                           ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-12 11:44                                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-12 12:08                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-12 14:22                                                                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2012-10-12 14:36                                                                   ` David Laight
2012-10-12 14:48                                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-12 15:00                                                                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2012-10-12 15:04                                                                     ` Ben Hutchings
2012-10-12 15:47                                                                       ` David Laight
2012-10-12 16:13                                                                         ` Ben Hutchings
2012-10-12 12:16                                                               ` Måns Rullgård
2012-10-12 11:19                                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2012-10-11 16:15                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-10-11 16:59                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-10-11 10:16                             ` David Laight
2012-10-11 10:46                               ` Måns Rullgård

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