From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 15/16] openvswitch: use new hashtable implementation
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:16:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121029181648.GB20796@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+1xoqcr5xmOkDfqL3P84CNdotOALOhiLRkJjsPCZzijSQUF6w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
* Sasha Levin (levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org) wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > * Sasha Levin (levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org) wrote:
> >> Hi Mathieu,
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers
> >> <mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> > * Sasha Levin (levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org) wrote:
> >> > [...]
> >> >> -static struct hlist_head *hash_bucket(struct net *net, const char *name)
> >> >> -{
> >> >> - unsigned int hash = jhash(name, strlen(name), (unsigned long) net);
> >> >> - return &dev_table[hash & (VPORT_HASH_BUCKETS - 1)];
> >> >> -}
> >> >> -
> >> >> /**
> >> >> * ovs_vport_locate - find a port that has already been created
> >> >> *
> >> >> @@ -84,13 +76,12 @@ static struct hlist_head *hash_bucket(struct net *net, const char *name)
> >> >> */
> >> >> struct vport *ovs_vport_locate(struct net *net, const char *name)
> >> >> {
> >> >> - struct hlist_head *bucket = hash_bucket(net, name);
> >> >> struct vport *vport;
> >> >> struct hlist_node *node;
> >> >> + int key = full_name_hash(name, strlen(name));
> >> >>
> >> >> - hlist_for_each_entry_rcu(vport, node, bucket, hash_node)
> >> >> - if (!strcmp(name, vport->ops->get_name(vport)) &&
> >> >> - net_eq(ovs_dp_get_net(vport->dp), net))
> >> >> + hash_for_each_possible_rcu(dev_table, vport, node, hash_node, key)
> >> >
> >> > Is applying hash_32() on top of full_name_hash() needed and expected ?
> >>
> >> Since this was pointed out in several of the patches, I'll answer it
> >> just once here.
> >>
> >> I've intentionally "allowed" double hashing with hash_32 to keep the
> >> code simple.
> >>
> >> hash_32() is pretty simple and gcc optimizes it to be almost nothing,
> >> so doing that costs us a multiplication and a shift. On the other
> >> hand, we benefit from keeping our code simple - how would we avoid
> >> doing this double hash? adding a different hashtable function for
> >> strings? or a new function for already hashed keys? I think we benefit
> >> a lot from having to mul/shr instead of adding extra lines of code
> >> here.
> >
> > This could be done, as I pointed out in another email within this
> > thread, by changing the "key" argument from add/for_each_possible to an
> > expected "hash" value, and let the caller invoke hash_32() if they want.
> > I doubt this would add a significant amount of complexity for users of
> > this API, but would allow much more flexibility to choose hash
> > functions.
>
> Most callers do need to do the hashing though, so why add an
> additional step for all callers instead of doing another hash_32 for
> the ones that don't really need it?
>
> Another question is why do you need flexibility? I think that
> simplicity wins over flexibility here.
I usually try to make things as simple as possible, but not simplistic
compared to the problem tackled. In this case, I would ask the following
question: by standardizing the hash function of all those pieces of
kernel infrastructure to "hash_32()", including submodules part of the
kernel network infrastructure, parts of the kernel that can be fed
values coming from user-space (through the VFS), how can you guarantee
that hash_32() won't be the cause of a DoS attack based on the fact that
this algorithm is a) known by an attacker, and b) does not have any
randomness. It's been a recent trend to perform DoS attacks on poorly
implemented hashing functions.
This is just one example in an attempt to show why different hash table
users may have different constraints: for a hash table entirely
populated by keys generated internally by the kernel, a random seed
might not be required, but for cases where values are fed by user-space
and from the NIC, I would argue that flexibility to implement a
randomizable hash function beats implementation simplicity any time.
And you could keep the basic use-case simple by providing hints to the
hash_32()/hash_64()/hash_ulong() helpers in comments.
Thoughts ?
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-29 18:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-28 19:02 [PATCH v7 01/16] hashtable: introduce a small and naive hashtable Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 05/16] mm/huge_memory: use new hashtable implementation Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 06/16] tracepoint: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 11:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:29 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqce6uJ6wy3+2CBwsLHKnsz4wD0vt8MBEGKCFfXTvuC0Hg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 17:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:31 ` Josh Triplett
2012-10-29 18:42 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqfMrn9zDFMJNFfA0NA86wE_DedD97cP1yJ2UQdTjs3uyQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 18:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:58 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029185814.GC4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:01 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029190107.GD4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 19:09 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqcSx04JEXy2aPu4Qt7Zb4iSqXBSjARgMae_FusgzpgnaQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:12 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029191256.GE4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:17 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 19:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 08/16] block,elevator: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 1:29 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-8-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 12:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 09/16] SUNRPC/cache: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 12:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 14:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-29 15:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20121029151653.GC9502-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 15:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
[not found] ` <CA+55aFzO8DJJP3HBfgqXFac9r3=bYK+_nYe4cuXiNFg-623s6w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 16:27 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 11/16] net,l2tp: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 13:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 13/16] lockd: " Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-13-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 13:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-1-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 02/16] userns: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 03/16] mm, ksm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 04/16] workqueue: " Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-4-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 1:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] net, 9p: " Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-7-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 12:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 10/16] dlm: " Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-10-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 12:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:53 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:23 ` David Teigland
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 12/16] dm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 14/16] net, rds: " Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-14-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 13:25 ` [PATCH v7 14/16] net,rds: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 15/16] openvswitch: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 13:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:43 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqfRGhPaBEVh228O5_295bWh8FmcyLSOwq8VE5Dm7i3JHg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 15:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:35 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqcr5xmOkDfqL3P84CNdotOALOhiLRkJjsPCZzijSQUF6w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 18:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2012-10-29 18:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029182209.GB4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 18:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 16/16] tracing output: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 11:29 ` [PATCH v7 01/16] hashtable: introduce a small and naive hashtable Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:06 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:18 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 16:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:26 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqfBXM4sjvcZtUncnWAaUxA9_YBod3Hjx3ZO=K1oJO_j7g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 16:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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