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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: mst@redhat.com
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
	nhorman@tuxdriver.com, ramirose@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tun: only queue packets on device
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:41:32 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121203.134132.558381056546064453.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121203131942.GA27953@redhat.com>

From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:19:43 +0200

> Historically tun supported two modes of operation:
> - in default mode, a small number of packets would get queued
>   at the device, the rest would be queued in qdisc
> - in one queue mode, all packets would get queued at the device
> 
> This might have made sense up to a point where we made the
> queue depth for both modes the same and set it to
> a huge value (500) so unless the consumer
> is stuck the chance of losing packets is small.
> 
> Thus in practice both modes behave the same, but the
> default mode has some problems:
> - if packets are never consumed, fragments are never orphaned
>   which cases a DOS for sender using zero copy transmit
> - overrun errors are hard to diagnose: fifo error is incremented
>   only once so you can not distinguish between
>   userspace that is stuck and a transient failure,
>   tcpdump on the device does not show any traffic
> 
> Userspace solves this simply by enabling IFF_ONE_QUEUE
> but there seems to be little point in not doing the
> right thing for everyone, by default.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>

Now that TUN_NO_QUEUE has no real effect and is a NOP, please document
it as such both in if_tun.h and the places in the driver that flip the
bit based upon userspace requests.

Thanks.

      reply	other threads:[~2012-12-03 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 2+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-03 13:19 [PATCH] tun: only queue packets on device Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-03 18:41 ` David Miller [this message]

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