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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Paul Moore <pmoore@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, jasowang@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] tun: fix LSM/SELinux labeling of tun/tap devices
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 22:57:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121206205716.GA6576@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6001427.qD54i2BbtH@sifl>

On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 11:56:45AM -0500, Paul Moore wrote:
> The SETQUEUE/tun_socket:create_queue permissions do not yet exist in any 
> released SELinux policy as we are just now adding them with this patchset.  
> With current policies loaded into a kernel with this patchset applied the 
> SETQUEUE/tun_socket:create_queue permission would be treated according to the 
> policy's unknown permission setting.


OK I think we need to rethink what we are doing here: what you sent
addresses the problem as stated but I think we mis-stated it.  Let me
try to restate the problem: it is not just selinux problem.  Let's
assume qemu wants to use tun, I (libvirt) don't want to run it as root.

1. TUNSETIFF: I can open tun, attach an fd and pass it to qemu.
Now, qemu does not invoke TUNSETIFF so it can run without
kernel priveledges.

2. TUNSETQUEUE - I can open tun and attach a queue but this
is not what is needed since this automatically switches
to multiqueue mode - we want to change number of queues
on the fly.
So qemu needs to be allowed to run TUNSETQUEUE.
Since this checks tun_not_capable(tun) we would need
to give qemu these priveledges, and we want to avoid this
(I can go into why if it's not obvious).
 
How can we slove this?
I don't see a way without extending the interface.
Here's a simple way to extend it: pass a flag to TUNSETQUEUE
that enables/disables TX on this queue.
If TX is disabled, ignore this queue for flow steering decisions.
Allow TUNSETQUEUE for a non priveledged user if it
it already bound to the currect tun and only changes this flag.


Now I open tun and SETQUEUE with TX disabled flag. Pass it to qemu.
qemu calls SETQUEUE with TX enabled flag.

Jason? Want to try implementing and see what people think?

> -- 
> paul moore
> security and virtualization @ redhat

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-06 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-05 20:25 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] Fix some multiqueue TUN problems Paul Moore
2012-12-05 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] tun: correctly report an error in tun_flow_init() Paul Moore
2012-12-06 10:31   ` Jason Wang
2012-12-06 15:46     ` Paul Moore
2012-12-05 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] selinux: add the "create_queue" permission to the "tun_socket" class Paul Moore
2012-12-05 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] tun: fix LSM/SELinux labeling of tun/tap devices Paul Moore
2012-12-06 10:29   ` Jason Wang
2012-12-06 15:36     ` Paul Moore
2012-12-07  5:29       ` Jason Wang
2012-12-06 10:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-06 13:51     ` Jason Wang
2012-12-06 14:12       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-06 15:46     ` Paul Moore
2012-12-06 16:12       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-06 16:56         ` Paul Moore
2012-12-06 20:57           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-12-06 21:09             ` Paul Moore
2012-12-07 12:25               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-10 17:04                 ` Paul Moore
2012-12-10 17:26                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-10 17:33                     ` Paul Moore
2012-12-10 17:50                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-10 18:42                         ` Eric Paris
2012-12-10 22:21                           ` Paul Moore
2012-12-10 22:43                         ` Paul Moore
2012-12-11  6:41                           ` Jason Wang
2012-12-12  9:10                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-07  5:41             ` Jason Wang
2012-12-12  9:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-12-12 18:49     ` Paul Moore

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