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From: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
To: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
Cc: Rui Xiang <leo.ruixiang-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/5] Containerize syslog
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 01:03:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121207010355.c809b3f7.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874nklkjjm.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:51:09 -0800 ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman) wrote:

> Are there any kernel print statements besides networking stack printks
> that we want to move to show up in a new "kernel log" namespace?

That's a good question, and afaict it remains unanswered.

As so often happens, this patchset's changelogs forgot to describe the
reason for the existence of this patchset.  Via a bit of lwn reading
and my awesome telepathic skills, I divine that something in networking
is using syslog for kernel->userspace communications.

wtf?

Wouldn't it be better to just stop doing that, and to implement a
respectable and reliable kernel->userspace messaging scheme?

And leave syslog alone - it's a crude low-level thing for random
unexpected things which operators might want to know about.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-07  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-19  8:16 [PATCH RFC 0/5] Containerize syslog Rui Xiang
     [not found] ` <50A9EAD8.9090501-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-19  9:51   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <874nklkjjm.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-07  9:03       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
     [not found]         ` <20121207010355.c809b3f7.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-07 14:23           ` Serge Hallyn
2012-12-07 14:30             ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]               ` <50C1FD9D.5020703-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-07 18:05                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-12-11  8:25                   ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                     ` <50C6EDF0.5060108-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-11 18:22                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-12-12  8:56                         ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                           ` <50C846C7.5050904-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-12 20:08                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-12-07 18:21             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-19 14:37   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20121119143702.GB4620-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-21  9:35       ` Rui Xiang
2012-11-26 15:16         ` Eric W. Biederman

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