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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Cc: Flavio Leitner <fbl@redhat.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
	bhutchings@solarflare.com, mirqus@gmail.com,
	greearb@candelatech.com
Subject: Re: [patch net-next 0/4] net: allow to change carrier from userspace
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:41:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121214144134.GA1652@minipsycho.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121213102051.72ad69aa@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net>

Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 07:20:51PM CET, shemminger@vyatta.com wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:17:33 -0200
>Flavio Leitner <fbl@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:09:33 -0800
>> Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:54:23 -0200
>> > Flavio Leitner <fbl@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > I am saying this because people are used to and there are scripts out
>> > > there using something like:
>> > > # ethtool <iface> | grep 'Link'
>> > > to react an interface failure.
>> > 
>> > Then the script is broken. It is asking about hardware state.
>> 
>> I was talking about the team master interface, so it makes sense
>> to check its 'hardware' state. Just think on 'bond0' interface
>> with no slaves. It should report Link detected: no.
>> 
>> See bond_release(), what happens if bond->slave_cnt == 0, for instance.
>> 
>
>I was thinking more that ethtool operation for reporting link on
>the team device should use the proper check rather than just using netif_carrier_ok(),
>the team ethtool operation for get_link should be check IFF_RUNNING flag
>in dev->flags which is controlled by operstate transistions.

I admit I'm bit confused now.

For example in bridge code:
in br_add_if() - netif_carrier_ok() is checked and by the value it is
decided if br_stp_enable_port() is called or not. Wouldn't it make more
sense to check IFF_RUNNING (or netif_oper_up()) here?

The reason I'm asing is that if team device is in bridge, carrier is
always ON and I'm fiddling with IF_OPER_UP and IF_OPER_DORMANT from
userspace, in current code, bridge wouldn't know the difference...

There are more exmaples of similar usage of netif_carrier_ok() in
bridge (called on ports), bonding (called on slaves), team code (called on ports).

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-14 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-12 10:58 [patch net-next 0/4] net: allow to change carrier from userspace Jiri Pirko
2012-12-12 10:58 ` [patch net-next 1/4] net: add change_carrier netdev op Jiri Pirko
2012-12-12 10:58 ` [patch net-next 2/4] net: allow to change carrier via sysfs Jiri Pirko
2012-12-12 10:58 ` [patch net-next 3/4] rtnl: expose carrier value with possibility to set it Jiri Pirko
2012-12-12 10:58 ` [patch net-next 4/4] dummy: implement carrier change Jiri Pirko
2012-12-12 16:15 ` [patch net-next 0/4] net: allow to change carrier from userspace Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-12 17:05   ` Jiri Pirko
2012-12-12 17:27     ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-12 18:10       ` Jiri Pirko
2012-12-12 18:12         ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-12 18:25           ` Jiri Pirko
2012-12-12 18:36             ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-12 18:49               ` Jiri Pirko
2012-12-12 18:54                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-12 19:06                   ` Jiri Pirko
2012-12-12 19:34                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-13 16:17                       ` Jiri Pirko
2012-12-13 17:15                         ` John Fastabend
2012-12-13 17:54                           ` Flavio Leitner
2012-12-13 18:09                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-13 18:17                               ` Flavio Leitner
2012-12-13 18:20                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-13 18:33                                   ` Dan Williams
2012-12-13 19:09                                     ` John Fastabend
2012-12-13 21:32                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2012-12-14 14:41                                   ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2012-12-14 16:12                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-14 16:35                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2012-12-14 16:59                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-14 17:13                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2012-12-14 17:23                                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-14 17:35                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2012-12-16 10:54 ` Jiri Pirko
2012-12-18  6:49   ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-12-18  9:31     ` Jiri Pirko

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