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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: "Sebastian Pöhn" <sebastian.poehn@googlemail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: tuntap: Overload handling
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:42:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130214164053.GB18721@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1360859547.6884.51.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 08:32:27AM -0800, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 12:50 +0100, Sebastian Pöhn wrote:
> > I am having a look on the tun driver to realize an userspace network
> > driver ( TAP + UIO ). Maybe that's not the use-case tun is intended
> > for.
> > 
> > What I've noticed is that in tun.c Line 741
> > 
> > static netdev_tx_t tun_net_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
> > 
> > /* Limit the number of packets queued by dividing txq length with the
> >  * number of queues.
> >  */
> > if (skb_queue_len(&tfile->socket.sk->sk_receive_queue)
> >  >= dev->tx_queue_len / tun->numqueues)
> > goto drop;
> > 
> > If a frame can not be tx it is dropped by the driver.
> > Wouldn't it be more correct to netif_tx_stop_queue() so that packet
> > drops are performed by the overlying traffic control code?
> > 
> > Of course this is not very likely in virtual environments but as soon
> > as any real network hop is involved it could be important.
> > 
> > (I also had a look on some two year old version of tun.c. There
> > queue/tx stopping was done correctly.)

Hmm so ~1000 packets in the tun queue is not enough?
You always have the option to increase it some more ...

> You should ask Michael S. Tsirkin, as he removed the flow control
> in commit 5d097109257c03a71845729f8db6b5770c4bbedc
> (tun: only queue packets on device)
> 

Eric in the past you said the following things
(http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1204.1/00784.html)
> > In your case I would just not use qdisc at all, like other virtual
> > devices.
...
> > Anyway, with a 500 packet limit in TUN queue itself, qdisc layer should
> > be always empty. Whats the point storing more than 500 packets for a
> > device ? Thats a latency killer.
you don't think this applies, anymore?

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-14 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2013-02-14 11:50 ` tuntap: Overload handling Sebastian Pöhn
2013-02-14 16:32   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-02-14 16:42     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-02-14 17:01       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-02-15  7:04         ` Sebastian Pöhn
2013-02-17 13:24         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-02-17 16:08           ` Sebastian Pöhn
2013-02-17 16:18             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-02-17 20:54               ` Sebastian Pöhn
2013-02-17 17:43           ` Eric Dumazet

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