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From: Veaceslav Falico <vfalico@redhat.com>
To: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, wfp5p@virginia.edu, jasowang@redhat.com,
	junchangwang@gmail.com, greearb@candelatech.com,
	ivecera@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 8139too: send NETDEV_CHANGE manually when autoneg is disabled
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:35:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130307163537.GA21810@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1362671555.2936.10.camel@bwh-desktop.uk.solarflarecom.com>

On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 03:52:35PM +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>On Thu, 2013-03-07 at 11:27 +0100, Veaceslav Falico wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 03:53:23PM -0500, David Miller wrote:
>> >From: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
>> >Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:22:52 +0000
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 20:06 +0100, Veaceslav Falico wrote:
>> >>> When setting autoneg off (with any additional parameters, like
>> >>> speed/duplex), 8139too doesn't do an interface reset, and thus doesn't
>> >>> notify anyone that its speed/duplex might have changed (bonding and bridge
>> >>> will not see the speed changes, per example).
>> >>>
>> >>> Verify if we've force_media and send notification manually, so that the
>> >>> listeners have a chance to see the changes. It's quite ugly, however I
>> >>> don't see anything better.
>> >>
>> >> Isn't this really a bug in mii_check_media()?  It shouldn't shortcut the
>> >> calls to netif_carrier_{off,on}() just because mii->force_media is set.
>> >
>> >I think mii_check_media() is responsible for handling this too.
>>
>> The mii_check_media() doesn't get called, AFAIK. The problem here is that,
>> after we call ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off speed X, with eth0 being
>> 8139too, the speed/autoneg options are changed via mii_ethtool_sset(),
>> however the interface itself isn't down'ed/up'ed, and thus no NETDEV_
>> notifications are sent.
>
>Does the hardware not send link interrupts if autoneg is disabled?

Yes, it doesn't send them when the autoneg off is set.

>
>> Other drivers either explicitly reset the interface after
>> ethtool.set_settings() call (like netxen_nic using ndo_close()/ndo_open()),
>> do it on the logic level (tg3) without involving mii_ethtool_sset(), or
>> just reset on their own (e100 iirc), so that most of them are responsible
>> for somehow triggering these events.
>>
>> Silently changing speed can break things a bit - bonding relies on
>> interface speeds for 802.3ad/alb/tlb/active-backup iirc, bridge relies on
>> stp port cost etc. and they all get it via NETDEV_ notifications. So
>> without them, they would end up with outdated data, per example (eth2 being
>> 8139too):
>[...]
>
>Yes, I get it.  But on real hardware, changing speed/duplex is always
>going to break the link if it's up.  The link change notification should
>result in kernel and userland notifications via linkwatch_do_dev().
>
>(If you're testing against QEMU rather than real hardware, there could
>be a bug in the emulation of link interrupts.)

It's real hardware:

[    4.339413] 8139cp 0000:10:09.0: This (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip, use 8139too
[    4.348210] 8139too: 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28
[    4.350017] 8139too 0000:10:09.0 eth2: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xffffc90004574100, 00:14:d1:1f:b9:49, IRQ 21

darkmag:~#ethtool eth2
Settings for eth2:
<snip>
         Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
         Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 
                                 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 
         Advertised pause frame use: No
         Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
         Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 
                                              100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 
         Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
         Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
         Speed: 100Mb/s
         Duplex: Full
<snip>
darkmag:~#dmesg | tail -n 10 | grep 8139too
[  164.019622] 8139too 0000:10:09.0 eth2: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
darkmag:~#ethtool -s eth2 autoneg off speed 10
darkmag:~#dmesg | tail -n 10 | grep 8139too
[  164.019622] 8139too 0000:10:09.0 eth2: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
darkmag:~#ethtool eth2
Settings for eth2:
<snip>
         Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
         Advertised link modes:  Not reported
         Advertised pause frame use: No
         Advertised auto-negotiation: No
         Speed: 10Mb/s
         Duplex: Full

And, obviously, bonding's not updated:

darkmag:~#grep 'Interface\|Speed' /proc/net/bonding/bond0 
Slave Interface: eth0
Speed: 100 Mbps
Slave Interface: eth2
Speed: 100 Mbps

>
>Ben.
>
>-- 
>Ben Hutchings, Staff Engineer, Solarflare
>Not speaking for my employer; that's the marketing department's job.
>They asked us to note that Solarflare product names are trademarked.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-07 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-06 19:06 [PATCH] 8139too: send NETDEV_CHANGE manually when autoneg is disabled Veaceslav Falico
2013-03-06 20:22 ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-06 20:53   ` David Miller
2013-03-06 21:35     ` Francois Romieu
2013-03-07 10:27     ` Veaceslav Falico
2013-03-07 15:52       ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-07 16:35         ` Veaceslav Falico [this message]
2013-03-07 16:54           ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-07 18:38             ` Veaceslav Falico
2013-03-07 19:10               ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-11 17:58                 ` Veaceslav Falico
2013-03-11 21:31                   ` Ben Hutchings

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