From: Bill Fink <billfink@mindspring.com>
To: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
Cc: Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@genband.com>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>, Vimal <j.vimal@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, shemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Rate should be u64 to avoid integer overflow at high speeds (>= ~35Gbit)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 02:01:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130313020156.c9dd9841.billfink@mindspring.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130312154245.GA13101@casper.infradead.org>
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Thomas Graf wrote:
> On 03/12/13 at 08:29am, Chris Friesen wrote:
> > The only problem I see is that you can't set the multiplier with a
> > new tool and then query the rate with old tools.
> >
> > But you're going to run into that problem with the old tools no
> > matter what you do--and not doing anything is a crappy option as
> > well.
> >
> > Some kind of multiplier or shift makes as much sense as anything
> > else. With old tools you get current behaviour, with new tools you
> > can specify a multiplying factor to trade off resolution vs
> > precision.
>
> The introduction of a shift operator or multiplier introduces
> inprecision. I'd much rather see new 64bit Netlink attributes
> that, if present, replace the old rate values and statistics.
>
> You will need to add a new Netlink attribute anyway and we might
> as well transfer the actual rate instead of a multiplier. Just
> like we did with IFLA_STATS64.
The last time this was discussed appears to be (on 2011-03-28):
http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=130128741907282&w=2
where Maciej Żenczykowski argued that creating a new 64-bit
Netlink attribute for this would be much more complex than for
the IFLA_STATS64 support. There was no reply.
Providing a new multiplier/shift parameter would be a simple
way to extend support for higher rates, and would not break
existing user space that doesn't require the higher rates.
I imagine the user would not explicitly specify the multiplier/
shift parameter, but would just normally specify the desired
rate, and a newer tc would figure out what multiplier/shift
to use if a high enough rate demanded it. To maintain user
space compatibility, the kernel should report back the same
rate and multiplier/shift it was given, and the newer tc would
convert it back to the user's originally specified rate. Older
user space that was fine with the ~34 Gbps rate limitation would
always have the default multiplier of 1 or shift of 0 bits, and
would see the exact same unmultiplied/unshifted rate it always
did.
I also believe 32 bits of precision is significant enough
at these higher data rates.
-Bill
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-13 6:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-10 3:20 [PATCH] Rate should be u64 to avoid integer overflow at high speeds (>= ~35Gbit) Vimalkumar
2013-03-10 4:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-10 4:53 ` Vimal
2013-03-10 5:05 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-10 5:49 ` Bill Fink
2013-03-10 5:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-12 14:29 ` Chris Friesen
2013-03-12 15:42 ` Thomas Graf
2013-03-12 15:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-12 15:53 ` Chris Friesen
2013-03-12 15:56 ` Chris Friesen
2013-03-13 6:01 ` Bill Fink [this message]
2013-03-13 6:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-13 15:29 ` Bill Fink
2013-03-13 15:34 ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-03-13 16:57 ` Chris Friesen
2013-03-14 4:08 ` Bill Fink
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