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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Ben Collins <benmcollins13@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	afleming@freescale.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: Add support for handling queueing in hardware
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:10:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130323191023.GB22005@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130322220840.GA6647@thunk.org>

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 06:08:40PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:39:20AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > 
> > If your company had hardware going to production, you'd want it supported in mainline too, I suspect.
> 
> And if companies told their hardware partners that they will drop use
> of their hardware in future products unless they get their !@#@S
> drivers upstream, I'd bet they'd change their engineering priorities
> so they would work on it, instead of foisting this work on their
> customers.
> 
I would love to be in that position. However, the decision to choose
a specific chip is not always coordinated with those who have to provide
the software to run on those chips.

> I've seen this work in enterprise computing, where the RFP had
> requirements for upstream drivers (i.e., if you want your 10gig
> ethernet NIC to be used in HP or IBM's servers, get the darned thing
> upstream!).  The trick is making it clear that selection of components
> depends not just on an OSS driver, but an OSS driver which has been
> accepted upstream (which also helps from a quality-of-code
> requirement).
> 
> I've been waiting for this to start happening in the consumer
> electronics/embedded world, but it's been slow coming,
> unfortunately....
> 
The same applies to vendors of non-consumer network devices, unfortunately.

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-24  9:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-13 13:52 [PATCH] net: Add support for handling queueing in hardware Andy Fleming
2013-03-22 14:11 ` David Miller
2013-03-22 14:31   ` Fleming Andy-AFLEMING
2013-03-22 14:33     ` David Miller
2013-03-22 14:43       ` Ben Collins
2013-03-22 15:17         ` David Miller
2013-03-22 15:39           ` Ben Collins
2013-03-22 15:41             ` David Miller
2013-03-22 15:53               ` Ben Collins
2013-03-22 15:59                 ` David Miller
2013-03-22 16:14                   ` Ben Collins
2013-03-22 16:16                     ` David Miller
2013-03-22 16:23                       ` Ben Collins
2013-03-22 22:08             ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-03-23 19:10               ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2013-04-01 14:13               ` Mark Brown
2013-03-23 19:02         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-03-24 19:06           ` Guenter Roeck
2013-03-22 14:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-22 14:50   ` Ben Collins
2013-03-22 15:01     ` Eric Dumazet

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