From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <klamm@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
zhmurov@yandex-team.ru, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] rcu: fix a race in hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu macro
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 04:37:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130525113715.GA3795@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <519D19DA.50400@yandex-team.ru>
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:17:46PM +0400, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> On 22.05.2013 21:45, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 05:07:07PM +0400, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> >>On 22.05.2013 16:30, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> >>>On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 15:58 +0400, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>+/*
> >>>>+ * Same as ACCESS_ONCE(), but used for accessing field of a structure.
> >>>>+ * The main goal is preventing compiler to store &ptr->field in a register.
> >>>
> >>>But &ptr->field is a constant during the whole duration of
> >>>udp4_lib_lookup2() and could be in a register, in my case field is at
> >>>offset 0, and ptr is a parameter (so could be in a 'register')
> >>>
> >>>The bug you found is that compiler caches the indirection (ptr->field)
> >>>into a register, not that compiler stores &ptr->field into a register.
> >>>
> >>>>+ */
> >>>>+#define ACCESS_FIELD_ONCE(PTR, FIELD) (((volatile typeof(*PTR) *)PTR)->FIELD)
> >>>>+
> >>>
> >>>Here we force the compiler to consider ptr as volatile, but semantically
> >>>it is not required in rcu_dereference(ptr->field)
> >>
> >>Actually, we need to mark an "address of a place" where the field value is
> >>located as volatile before dereferencing. I have no idea how to do it in another way,
> >>except using multiple casts and offsetof's, but, IMHO, it will be even more complex:
> >> ACCESS_ONCE(typeof(&ptr->field)((char*)ptr + offsetof(typeof(*ptr), field)))
>
> Probably I miss one more ACCESS_ONCE() in this expression. Should be something like
> ACCESS_ONCE(typeof(&ptr->field)((char*)ACCESS_ONCE(ptr) + offsetof(typeof(*ptr), field))) .
> But this is not a working example, just an illustration against using ACCESS_ONCE() here.
>
> >Why not just ACCESS_ONCE(ptr->field)? Or if it is the thing that
> >ptr->field points to that is subject to change, ACCESS_ONCE(*ptr->field)?
> >
> >Or rcu_dereference(ptr->field), as appropriate?
>
> It's not enough. So is the code now, and it doesn't work as expected.
> You can't write (ptr->field) without ptr being marked as a volatile pointer.
>
> I try to explain the problem once more from scratch:
>
> 1) We have the following pseudo-code (based on udp4_lib_lookup2()):
>
> static void some_func(struct hlist_nulls_head *head) {
> struct hlist_nulls_node *node;
>
> begin:
> for (node = rcu_dereference(head->first);
> !is_nulls(node) & ...;
> node = rcu_dereference(node->next)) {
> <...>
> }
>
> if (restart_condition)
> goto begin;
>
> 2) A problem occurs when restart_condition is true and we jump to the begin label.
> We do not recalculate (head + offsetof(head, first)) address, we just dereference
> again the OLD (head->first) pointer. So, we get a node, that WAS the first node in a
> previous time instead of current first node. That node can be dead, or, for instance,
> can be a head of another chain.
OK, this is what I was referring to when I said that the RCU list macros
assume that the list header is static (or equivalently, appropriately
protected).
With some_func() as written above, you would need to return some sort
of failure indication from some_func(), and have the caller refetch head.
Otherwise, as far as gcc is concerned, the value of the parameter head
is constant throughout some_func().
> It is correct from gcc's point of view, since it doesn't expect the head pointer
> to change, and this address is just (head + constant offset).
Agreed.
How does the caller calculate the value to pass in through the argument "head"?
> 3) If we start with a wrong first element, restart_condition can be always true, so,
> we get an infinite loop. In any case, we do not scan the whole (socket) chain,
> as expected.
Agreed.
> This scenario is absolutely real and causes our DNS servers to hang
> sometimes under high load.
I completely believe that such a hang could happen.
> Note, that there are no problems if we don't restart a loop. Also, it is highly
> dependent on gcc options, and the code in the body of the loop. Even small changes
> in the code (like adding debugging print) preventing reproducing of the issue.
Again, I believe that your retry logic needs to extend back into the
calling function for your some_func() example above.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-25 11:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-21 9:05 [PATCH] rcu: fix a race in hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu macro Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 10:40 ` David Laight
2013-05-21 11:55 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 13:42 ` David Laight
2013-05-21 12:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-21 12:46 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 12:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-21 13:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-21 13:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-21 14:47 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 15:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-21 15:51 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 15:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-21 15:51 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 18:12 ` [PATCH v2] " Roman Gushchin
2013-05-22 2:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-22 5:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-22 11:58 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-22 12:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-22 13:07 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-22 17:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-22 19:17 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-25 11:37 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-05-27 11:34 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-27 17:55 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-28 0:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-28 9:10 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-29 0:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-29 1:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-29 5:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-29 10:09 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-29 19:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-30 8:25 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-06-02 23:31 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-03 2:58 ` David Miller
2013-06-03 3:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-03 3:27 ` David Miller
2013-06-03 3:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-03 3:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-03 3:49 ` David Miller
2013-06-03 6:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 18:29 ` Boris B. Zhmurov
2013-06-10 18:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-03 3:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-03 3:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-29 9:17 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-29 1:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-22 13:27 ` David Laight
2013-05-22 13:36 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-22 14:23 ` David Laight
2013-05-22 13:55 ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-22 9:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-22 12:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-22 13:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-22 14:16 ` Eric Dumazet
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