From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: hannes@stressinduktion.org
Cc: jiri@resnulli.us, vyasevich@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, jmorris@namei.org, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
kaber@trash.net, thaller@redhat.com, stephen@networkplumber.org
Subject: Re: [patch net-next] ipv6: allow userspace to create address with IFLA_F_TEMPORARY flag
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 20:43:06 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131028.204306.2213130677400093266.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131028233158.GA26185@order.stressinduktion.org>
From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 00:31:58 +0100
> I wonder why NetworkManager rewrote IPv6 router discovery but not IPv4
> DHCP client stuff. It could have been a good moment to introduce something
> like PROT_DHCP sockets. Maybe it is not too late... ;)
Note that you don't even need to put the DHCP protocol core into the
kernel to fix the promiscuous problem. You just have to use the
current kernel interfaces correctly.
It used to be the case a very long time ago that you couldn't even
receive broadcast UDP datagrams on a socket until an address was
configured on it.
So everyone turns on promiscuous mode and uses RAW sockets or
AF_PACKET.
Stupid? yes.
But now the kernel will receive broadcast UDP datagrams just fine even
if there are no ipv4 addresses assigned yet.
I did a mock-up simple ipv4 DHCP client implementation just to test it
out, and it did work just fine. Unfortunately, I can't find it at the
moment, I hope I didn't just delete it in frustration. :-)
> My current idea to handle this, is that a kernel boot parameter is
> provided to stop the generation of link-local addresses and that we kick
> off address configuration from user-space at early as the secret key is
> provided, which may well be from the initramfs. I'll send a RFC as soon
> as I can find some time to clean it up and have it actually tested.
I guess I'm ok with this, as I can't come up with any reasonable
alternative scheme.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-29 0:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-24 13:45 [patch net-next] ipv6: allow userspace to create address with IFLA_F_TEMPORARY flag Jiri Pirko
2013-10-24 13:48 ` [patch iproute2] allow to create temporary addresses Jiri Pirko
2013-10-24 14:02 ` [patch net-next] ipv6: allow userspace to create address with IFLA_F_TEMPORARY flag Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-10-24 16:59 ` Jiri Pirko
2013-10-25 10:05 ` Vladislav Yasevich
2013-10-25 20:12 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-10-25 23:05 ` Vladislav Yasevich
2013-10-27 13:29 ` Jiri Pirko
2013-10-27 16:48 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-10-28 13:56 ` Vladislav Yasevich
2013-10-28 21:17 ` David Miller
2013-10-28 23:16 ` Dan Williams
2013-10-28 23:23 ` Dan Williams
2013-10-29 0:12 ` David Miller
2013-10-28 23:48 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-10-29 14:31 ` Dan Williams
2013-10-29 14:38 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-10-29 17:21 ` Dan Williams
2013-10-29 16:58 ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-10-29 17:15 ` Dan Williams
2013-10-29 0:08 ` David Miller
2013-10-29 0:13 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-10-29 0:46 ` David Miller
2013-10-28 23:31 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-10-29 0:43 ` David Miller [this message]
2013-10-29 9:37 ` David Laight
2013-10-29 12:40 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-10-29 13:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-10-29 13:11 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-10-29 19:58 ` David Miller
2013-11-01 21:28 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-11-05 17:02 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2013-11-05 17:12 ` David Laight
2013-11-05 21:11 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-11-06 9:23 ` David Laight
2013-11-06 12:03 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-11-05 20:57 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-11-06 8:11 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2013-11-09 0:54 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/2] ipv4: fix wildcard search with inet_confirm_addr() Nicolas Dichtel
2013-11-09 0:54 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 2/2] udp: add sk opt to allow sending pkt with src 0.0.0.0 Nicolas Dichtel
2013-11-09 14:46 ` Julian Anastasov
2013-11-12 8:59 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2013-11-11 5:18 ` David Miller
2013-11-14 13:05 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2013-11-14 19:57 ` David Miller
2013-11-18 9:15 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2013-11-14 14:31 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-11-14 20:00 ` David Miller
2013-10-29 19:44 ` [patch net-next] ipv6: allow userspace to create address with IFLA_F_TEMPORARY flag David Miller
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20131028.204306.2213130677400093266.davem@davemloft.net \
--to=davem@davemloft.net \
--cc=hannes@stressinduktion.org \
--cc=jiri@resnulli.us \
--cc=jmorris@namei.org \
--cc=kaber@trash.net \
--cc=kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=stephen@networkplumber.org \
--cc=thaller@redhat.com \
--cc=vyasevich@gmail.com \
--cc=yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).