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From: Karl Beldan <karl.beldan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Hannes Frederic Sowa
	<hannes-tFNcAqjVMyqKXQKiL6tip0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann
	<dborkman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org,
	shemminger-OTpzqLSitTUnbdJkjeBofR2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org,
	fweimer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Eric Dumazet
	<eric.dumazet-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/6] random32: add prandom_reseed_late() and call when nonblocking pool becomes initialized
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 01:37:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131112003709.GA11824@gobelin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131112000307.GB14929-5j1vdhnGyZutBveJljeh2VPnkB77EeZ12LY78lusg7I@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 01:03:07AM +0100, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:43:57AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:20:34PM +0100, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> > > From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes-tFNcAqjVMyqKXQKiL6tip0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
> > > 
> > > The Tausworthe PRNG is initialized at late_initcall time. At that time the
> > > entropy pool serving get_random_bytes is not filled sufficiently. This
> > > patch adds an additional reseeding step as soon as the nonblocking pool
> > > gets marked as initialized.
> > > 
> > > On some machines it might be possible that late_initcall gets called after
> > > the pool has been initialized. In this situation we won't reseed again.
> > > 
> > > (A call to prandom_seed_late blocks later invocations of early reseed
> > > attempts.)
> > > 
> > > Joint work with Daniel Borkmann.
> > 
> > Acked-by: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
> > 
> > I wasn't cc'ed on the full series (I didn't see the 0/3 or the 4/6
> > messages) but there are two other things that you might want to
> > consider.
> > 
> > 1)  I'm pretty sure, but it would be good to get netdev confirmation,
> > that the call to get_random_bytes() in
> > net/mac80211/rc80211_minstrel.c's init_sample_table() can be replaced
> > by calls to prandom_u32().
> 
> Would make sense. I added wireless-devel to confirm.
> 
> [...]
> [    0.673260] random: rc80211_minstrel_ht_init+0x47/0xaa get_random_bytes called with 3 bits of entropy available
> [    0.674024] random: rc80211_minstrel_ht_init+0x47/0xaa get_random_bytes called with 3 bits of entropy available
> [    0.675012] random: rc80211_minstrel_ht_init+0x47/0xaa get_random_bytes called with 3 bits of entropy available
> [    0.676032] random: rc80211_minstrel_ht_init+0x47/0xaa get_random_bytes called with 3 bits of entropy available
> [    0.677020] random: rc80211_minstrel_ht_init+0x47/0xaa get_random_bytes called with 3 bits of entropy available
> [    0.678011] random: rc80211_minstrel_ht_init+0x47/0xaa get_random_bytes called with 3 bits of entropy available
> [    0.679011] random: rc80211_minstrel_ht_init+0x47/0xaa get_random_bytes called with 3 bits of entropy available
> [...]
> 
> In total 80 calls to get_random_bytes.
> 

It is already 8 times what rc80211_minstrel_ht_init uses.
If you could apply on top of:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=138392850030987&w=2
although Johannes has not yet agreed/applied this.

 
Karl
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-12  0:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-11 11:20 [PATCH net-next 0/6] prandom fixes/improvements Daniel Borkmann
2013-11-11 11:20 ` [PATCH net-next 1/6] random32: fix off-by-one in seeding requirement Daniel Borkmann
2013-11-11 11:20 ` [PATCH net-next 2/6] random32: add periodic reseeding Daniel Borkmann
2013-11-11 11:20 ` [PATCH net-next 3/6] random32: add prandom_reseed_late() and call when nonblocking pool becomes initialized Daniel Borkmann
2013-11-11 13:43   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-12  0:03     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
     [not found]       ` <20131112000307.GB14929-5j1vdhnGyZutBveJljeh2VPnkB77EeZ12LY78lusg7I@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12  0:37         ` Karl Beldan [this message]
2013-11-12  8:36           ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]             ` <1384245375.14301.1.camel-8Nb76shvtaUJvtFkdXX2HixXY32XiHfO@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 11:13               ` Karl Beldan
2013-11-12 13:09                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-11-12 11:53       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-12 12:04         ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]         ` <20131112115350.GA14077-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 13:16           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
     [not found]             ` <20131112131627.GD14929-5j1vdhnGyZutBveJljeh2VPnkB77EeZ12LY78lusg7I@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 13:46               ` [PATCH] random: seed random_int_secret at least poorly at core_initcall time Hannes Frederic Sowa
     [not found]                 ` <20131112134603.GE14929-5j1vdhnGyZutBveJljeh2VPnkB77EeZ12LY78lusg7I@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-14  2:54                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-14  4:18                     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
     [not found]                       ` <20131114041829.GA26901-5j1vdhnGyZutBveJljeh2VPnkB77EeZ12LY78lusg7I@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-14  5:05                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-11-15 18:42                       ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                         ` <CAGXu5jJJtjvAqROzsekOd9Y5wbiw=G9ToNryOfP8auhQRrYORw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-16  7:40                           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
     [not found]                     ` <20131114025448.GB31602-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 18:33                       ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                         ` <CAGXu5j+ySEdQBXKkspYC=svfekBja2Z_2tcWSAOEbvyiMLf=aA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 18:45                           ` Dave Jones
2013-11-15 19:07                             ` Kees Cook
2013-11-15 21:05                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-11 11:20 ` [PATCH net-next 4/6] random32: move rnd_state to linux/random.h Daniel Borkmann
2013-11-11 11:20 ` [PATCH net-next 5/6] random32: upgrade taus88 generator to taus113 from errata paper Daniel Borkmann
2013-11-11 11:20 ` [PATCH net-next 6/6] random32: add test cases for taus113 implementation Daniel Borkmann
2013-11-11 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 0/6] prandom fixes/improvements David Miller
2013-11-11 19:44   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-11-11 20:00     ` David Miller

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