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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
Cc: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dcbw@redhat.com>, "Kalle Valo" <kvalo@adurom.com>,
	"Luciano Coelho" <luca@coelho.fi>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, freemangordon@abv.bg,
	aaro.koskinen@iki.fi, sre@ring0.de, joni.lapilainen@gmail.com,
	"Johannes Berg" <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	"Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 15/16] wl1251: Add sysfs file address for setting permanent mac address
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 11:56:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131212105647.GA22471@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1386796654.1516.268.camel@bwh-desktop.uk.level5networks.com>

On Wed 2013-12-11 21:17:34, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 18:52 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Tuesday 10 December 2013 18:49:22 Dan Williams wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 18:14 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 10 December 2013 17:10:50 Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 10 December 2013 16:49:23 Kalle Valo wrote:
> > > > > > Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@gmail.com> writes:
> > > > > > > Driver wl1251 generating mac address randomly at
> > > > > > > startup and there is no way to set permanent mac
> > > > > > > address via SET_IEEE80211_PERM_ADDR. This patch
> > > > > > > export sysfs file which can set permanent mac address
> > > > > > > by userspace helper program. Patch is needed for
> > > > > > > devices which do not store mac address in internal
> > > > > > > wl1251 eeprom.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We have ioctl() command for setting the mac address.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Really? Is there ioctl for setting permanent mac address?
> > > > > Can you show me it?
> > > > 
> > > > Now I looked at it again and I did not found any ioctl for
> > > > it. There is only ioctl cmd for getting address, not
> > > > setting it.
> > > > 
> > > > #define SIOCETHTOOL 0x8946
> > > > 
> > > > /* Get permanent hardware address */
> > > > #define ETHTOOL_GPERMADDR 0x00000020
> > > 
> > > Yeah, because it's supposed to be permanent and unchanging. 
> > > Which means if there was an ioctl for it, that would be
> > > contrary to the purpose of a permanent MAC address.
> > > 
> > > I realize the N900 stores the WiFi MAC address completely
> > > differently than many other systems, and that's why this
> > > sysfs file was created.  I don't really have a great
> > > converged solution for that, other than what you've currently
> > > got, or perhaps adding SPERMADDR to ethtool.  One thing I
> > > *would* like though, is a restriction on the sysfs file such
> > > that if the permanent MAC is already set, it cannot be set
> > > again.  Otherwise the permanent MAC address isn't permanent
> > > at all.
> 
> I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of involving userland in
> establishing the 'permanent' MAC address.  (And from what I gather, the
> Nokia software never did that but only used SIOCSIFHWADDR.)  It ought to
> be set before the interface is ever registered.

Which is hard to do on n900. What is the problem with userland setting
permanent mac address?

It is not used for security or anything...
									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-12 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-26 20:33 [PATCH 00/16] wl1251 patches from linux-n900 tree Pali Rohár
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 01/16] mac80211: fix TX device statistics for monitor interfaces Pali Rohár
2013-10-28  5:53   ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]     ` <87iowiszyu.fsf-5ukZ45wKbUHoml4zekdYB16hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-08  8:45       ` [PATCH] " Pali Rohár
     [not found]         ` <1386492357-20826-1-git-send-email-pali.rohar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-16 12:38           ` Johannes Berg
2013-10-28 13:47   ` [PATCH 01/16] " Johannes Berg
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 02/16] wl1251: fix scan behaviour while not associated Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:24   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 04/16] wl1251: retry power save entry Pali Rohár
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 05/16] wl1251: implement hardware ARP filtering Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:28   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 06/16] wl1251: split RX and TX data path initialisation Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:31   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 08/16] wl1251: implement multicast address filtering Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:41   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 09/16] wl1251: disable power saving in monitor mode Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:46   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 10/16] wl1251: fix channel switching " Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:47   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 11/16] wl1251: enable tx path in monitor mode if necessary for packet injection Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:51   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 12/16] wl1251: disable retry and ACK policy for injected packets Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:52   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] ` <1382819655-30430-1-git-send-email-pali.rohar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-26 20:34   ` [PATCH 03/16] wl1251: add sysfs interface for bluetooth coexistence mode configuration Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 23:39     ` Ben Hutchings
2013-10-29  7:09       ` Luca Coelho
2013-10-29 13:35         ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]       ` <1383003587.3779.49.camel-/LGg1Z1CJKQ+9kgCwbf1HqK4ta4zdZpAajtMo4Cw6ucAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-08  7:55         ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-08 16:36           ` Ben Hutchings
2013-10-26 20:34   ` [PATCH 07/16] wl1251: configure hardware en-/decryption for monitor mode Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:35     ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34   ` [PATCH 13/16] wl1251: enforce changed hw encryption support on monitor state change Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:55     ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-08 14:20   ` [PATCH 00/16] wl1251 patches from linux-n900 tree Felipe Contreras
2013-11-25 19:54     ` Pali Rohár
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 14/16] wl1251: add nvs file name to module firmware list Pali Rohár
2013-10-30 11:55   ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 15/16] wl1251: Add sysfs file tx_mgmt_frm_rate for setting rate Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 13:45   ` Johannes Berg
2013-10-26 20:34 ` [PATCH 16/16] wl1251: Add sysfs file address for setting permanent mac address Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 13:45   ` Johannes Berg
2013-10-28 13:49     ` Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 13:55       ` Johannes Berg
2013-10-28 14:00         ` Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 14:46           ` Dan Williams
2013-10-28 14:56             ` Johannes Berg
2013-10-28 15:04               ` Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 15:29                 ` Dan Williams
2013-10-28 16:21                   ` Pali Rohár
2013-10-28 15:33               ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-10-28 23:50   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-08  9:24 ` [PATCH v2 00/16] wl1251 patches from linux-n900 tree Pali Rohár
2013-12-08  9:24   ` [PATCH v2 01/16] wl1251: fix scan behaviour while not associated Pali Rohár
     [not found]     ` <1386494714-21070-2-git-send-email-pali.rohar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-10  9:21       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]         ` <20131210092114.GB22756-tWAi6jLit6GreWDznjuHag@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-10 15:41           ` Kalle Valo
2013-12-10 17:08             ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-11 20:44               ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-31  9:44           ` Pali Rohár
     [not found]   ` <1386494714-21070-1-git-send-email-pali.rohar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-08  9:25     ` [PATCH v2 02/16] wl1251: add sysfs interface for bluetooth coexistence mode configuration Pali Rohár
     [not found]       ` <1386494714-21070-3-git-send-email-pali.rohar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-10 15:46         ` Kalle Valo
2013-12-10 16:09           ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-08  9:25     ` [PATCH v2 04/16] wl1251: implement hardware ARP filtering Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:29       ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-10  9:59         ` Michal Kubecek
2013-12-08  9:25     ` [PATCH v2 05/16] wl1251: split RX and TX data path initialisation Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:31       ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25     ` [PATCH v2 06/16] wl1251: configure hardware en-/decryption for monitor mode Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:35       ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-31  9:31         ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-08  9:25     ` [PATCH v2 16/16] wl1251: fix NULL pointer dereference Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:42       ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 03/16] wl1251: retry power save entry Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:24     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 07/16] wl1251: implement multicast address filtering Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:39     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 08/16] wl1251: disable power saving in monitor mode Pali Rohár
     [not found]     ` <1386494714-21070-9-git-send-email-pali.rohar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-10  9:41       ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 09/16] wl1251: fix channel switching " Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:43     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 10/16] wl1251: enable tx path in monitor mode if necessary for packet injection Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:44     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 11/16] wl1251: disable retry and ACK policy for injected packets Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:46     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 12/16] wl1251: enforce changed hw encryption support on monitor state change Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:48     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 13/16] wl1251: add nvs file name to module firmware list Pali Rohár
2013-12-10  9:49     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 14/16] wl1251: Add sysfs file tx_mgmt_frm_rate for setting rate Pali Rohár
2013-12-09 16:50     ` Dan Williams
     [not found]     ` <1386494714-21070-15-git-send-email-pali.rohar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-10 15:36       ` Kalle Valo
2013-12-08  9:25   ` [PATCH v2 15/16] wl1251: Add sysfs file address for setting permanent mac address Pali Rohár
2013-12-10 15:49     ` Kalle Valo
2013-12-10 16:10       ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-10 17:14         ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-10 17:49           ` Dan Williams
     [not found]             ` <1386697762.30202.6.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-10 17:52               ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-10 19:22                 ` Dan Williams
2013-12-10 19:31                   ` Pali Rohár
2013-12-11 21:26                     ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-11 21:17                 ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-11 21:28                   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-11 21:35                   ` Ivajlo Dimitrov
2013-12-11 22:15                     ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-11 22:36                       ` Ivajlo Dimitrov
2013-12-12 12:45                         ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]                       ` <1386800135.1516.296.camel-/LGg1Z1CJKQ+9kgCwbf1HqK4ta4zdZpAajtMo4Cw6ucAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-11 22:53                         ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                           ` <1386802416.17188.69.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-12 19:55                             ` Ben Hutchings
2013-12-12 20:24                               ` Ivajlo Dimitrov
2013-12-12 10:56                   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2013-12-31  9:47   ` [PATCH v2 00/16] wl1251 patches from linux-n900 tree Pali Rohár
2014-01-06 20:00     ` John W. Linville
2014-01-06 20:26       ` Johannes Berg
2014-01-06 22:03       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-07 12:15       ` Pavel Machek
2014-01-16  0:21       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]         ` <20140116002121.GA3726-tWAi6jLit6GreWDznjuHag@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 20:29           ` John W. Linville

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