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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: ast@plumgrid.com
Cc: pablo@netfilter.org, dborkman@redhat.com, mingo@kernel.org,
	wad@chromium.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
	hpa@zytor.com, hagen@jauu.net, jesse@nicira.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, edumazet@google.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, acme@infradead.org, penberg@iki.fi,
	arjan@infradead.org, hch@infradead.org, xemul@parallels.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 net-next 1/3] filter: add Extended BPF interpreter and converter
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:08:51 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140314.160851.1134730495663127657.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMEtUuxd0yd81p7KPxyotMOcOxm3MS4Cj9oguS5QAzfXYChLXQ@mail.gmail.com>

From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:51:17 -0700

> can you please explain why the status of these
> patches is 'deferred' in patchwork ?
> Is it because of bpf vs nft thread?
> I think that's orthogonal.

I do not find it orthogonal, Pablo brings up some very valid points
which I agree with.

EBPF has a lot of the same user side interface limitations that the
existing BPF has, and you refuse to accept this core point Pablo is
making.

That is, that it lacks extensibility, and is too strongly tied to the
implementation.

This is exactly how we run into problems in the future, and you'll be
proposing EBPF_2.0 to address such problems.

I refuse to setup such a situation, and there is absolutely not rush
whatsoever to apply your patches.  We can take our time with this
stuff.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-14 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-12 21:43 [PATCH v10 net-next 0/3] filter: add Extended BPF interpreter and converter, seccomp Alexei Starovoitov
2014-03-12 21:43 ` [PATCH v10 net-next 1/3] filter: add Extended BPF interpreter and converter Alexei Starovoitov
2014-03-14 12:58   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-03-14 15:37     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-03-14 19:51       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-03-14 20:08         ` David Miller [this message]
2014-03-15 19:53           ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-03-17  9:16             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2014-03-12 21:43 ` [PATCH v10 net-next 2/3] seccomp: convert seccomp to use extended BPF Alexei Starovoitov
2014-03-12 21:43 ` [PATCH v10 net-next 3/3] doc: filter: add Extended BPF documentation Alexei Starovoitov

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