From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Andy Gospodarek <andy@greyhouse.net>,
dborkman <dborkman@redhat.com>, ogerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
jesse <jesse@nicira.com>, pshelar <pshelar@nicira.com>,
azhou <azhou@nicira.com>, Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com, vyasevic <vyasevic@redhat.com>,
Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@intel.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Scott Feldman <sfeldma@cumulusnetworks.com>,
Lennert Buytenhek <buytenh@wantstofly.org>,
Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
Subject: Re: [patch net-next RFC 0/4] introduce infrastructure for support of switch chip datapath
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 23:15:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140326231533.GA11773@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53335838.3060409@mojatatu.com>
On 03/26/14 at 06:44pm, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
> OTOH, the owrt view is probably because (If i understood correctly
> last time), there are cases where there is no way to even pass packets
> and attribute them to the originating switch ports. Infact, in some
> cases there may be no way at all to even pass packets to the kernel.
> Did i understand that part correctly?
> I suppose this is eventually all part of that capability discovery.
Listening to Florian it sounds like the fact that a separate control
path was chosen early on in owrt got rid of the main driver to abstract
everything through globally visible net_devices. Reusing existing
tools was never an objective.
I believe that the question whether a particular port will send
packets to the cpu does not matter that much. We'll see both and we'll
see various forms of hybrid models with software based learnings paths,
slow paths, and deliberate upcalls.
The simpler the model, the better. If the desire to hide some of the
complexity is driven by usability when I believe that hiding should
happen in user space.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-26 23:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-19 15:33 [patch net-next RFC 0/4] introduce infrastructure for support of switch chip datapath Jiri Pirko
2014-03-19 15:33 ` [patch net-next RFC 1/4] openvswitch: split flow structures into ovs specific and generic ones Jiri Pirko
2014-03-20 13:04 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-19 15:33 ` [patch net-next RFC 2/4] net: introduce switchdev API Jiri Pirko
2014-03-20 13:59 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-20 14:18 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-20 14:43 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2014-03-20 15:42 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-19 15:33 ` [patch net-next RFC 3/4] openvswitch: Introduce support for switchdev based datapath Jiri Pirko
2014-03-19 15:33 ` [patch net-next RFC 4/4] net: introduce dummy switch Jiri Pirko
2014-03-20 11:49 ` [patch net-next RFC 0/4] introduce infrastructure for support of switch chip datapath Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-20 12:40 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-20 17:21 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-21 12:04 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-22 9:48 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-24 23:07 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-25 17:39 ` Neil Horman
2014-03-25 18:00 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-25 19:35 ` Neil Horman
2014-03-25 20:11 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-25 20:31 ` Neil Horman
2014-03-25 21:22 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-25 21:26 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-25 21:42 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-25 21:54 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-26 10:55 ` Neil Horman
2014-03-26 5:37 ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-03-26 10:54 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 15:31 ` John W. Linville
2014-03-26 16:54 ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-03-26 16:59 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-26 17:29 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-26 17:35 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-26 17:58 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-26 18:14 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-26 18:29 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-03-26 18:30 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-26 21:51 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 22:22 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-26 22:53 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 23:16 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-27 6:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-27 10:39 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-27 10:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-27 11:12 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-27 11:16 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-27 14:10 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2014-03-27 16:41 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-27 16:57 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-27 16:59 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-27 20:32 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2014-03-27 21:20 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-27 21:55 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-28 6:28 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-30 12:08 ` Alon Harel
2014-03-27 21:41 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-27 16:55 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-27 19:58 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2014-03-27 20:01 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-27 20:04 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2014-03-27 21:47 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-27 21:54 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-27 21:59 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-27 22:19 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-27 23:42 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-27 23:46 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-26 17:57 ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-03-26 18:09 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-27 13:46 ` John W. Linville
2014-03-26 17:47 ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-03-26 18:03 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-26 21:27 ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-03-26 21:31 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-27 15:35 ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-03-27 16:10 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-04-01 19:13 ` Scott Feldman
2014-04-02 6:41 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-04-02 15:37 ` Scott Feldman
2014-04-02 14:32 ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-04-02 15:25 ` John W. Linville
2014-04-02 16:15 ` Scott Feldman
2014-04-02 16:47 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-04-02 21:52 ` Thomas Graf
2014-04-02 19:29 ` John W. Linville
2014-04-02 19:54 ` Scott Feldman
2014-04-02 20:06 ` John W. Linville
2014-04-02 20:04 ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-04-02 20:23 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-04-02 20:38 ` John W. Linville
2014-04-02 21:36 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-25 20:56 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-25 21:19 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-25 21:24 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 7:21 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-26 11:00 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 11:06 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 11:31 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 13:20 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-26 13:23 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 13:17 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-26 11:10 ` Neil Horman
2014-03-26 11:29 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-26 12:58 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 15:22 ` John W. Linville
2014-03-26 21:36 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 18:21 ` Neil Horman
2014-03-26 19:11 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-26 22:44 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 23:15 ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2014-03-26 23:21 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-27 15:26 ` Neil Horman
2014-03-27 21:33 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 19:24 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-03-27 13:43 ` John W. Linville
2014-03-26 12:19 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 15:27 ` John W. Linville
2014-03-25 18:33 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-25 19:40 ` Neil Horman
2014-03-25 20:00 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-25 21:39 ` tgraf
2014-03-25 22:08 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 5:48 ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-03-25 20:46 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-26 7:24 ` Jiri Pirko
2014-03-22 9:40 ` Jiri Pirko
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