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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Jorge Boncompte [DTI2]" <jorge@dti2.net>,
	Jiri Benc <jbenc@redhat.com>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com>,
	"security@kernel.org" <security@kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk-manpages <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] netlink: Only check file credentials for implicit destinations
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 15:39:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140526133907.GD13929@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwsomt04G8MTJBU2YEn4XLuRw14C4yU1b2sWDmk5HWrcw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 05:32:55PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Eric W. Biederman
> <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> >
> > But I agree that since connect on sockets is really the equivalent of
> > open on files, and unprivileged users can change where a socket is
> > connected to, using a struct cred captured at connect() time is better
> > than the struct cred captured at socket() time.
> 
> Ack. Conceptually, "connect/listen" really ends up being the
> equivalent to pathname lookup, not so much "socket()", which just
> mostly creates the placeholder for future work.
> 
> That would also be very much consistent with making "sendto" look at
> current creds rather than cached creds (but only _if_ it has an
> address, of course - using "sendto(... , NULL, 0)" should _not_
> somehow be different from "send()"). So I think that from a
> sensibility and "please explain the semantics to me" standpoint, that
> would be sane semantics.

I like this! And it's very much consistent with sendto() being used
as an alternative to connect() with TCP Fastopen.

Willy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-26 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]         ` <87r44qtabz.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]           ` <CALCETrWzUQ7QjykT85ExDfX-+9eDD-D-dcxofUMPvLK=ia9arg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <87r44qrt8v.fsf_-_@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-04-22 21:13               ` [PATCH 0/6]: Preventing abuse when passing file descriptors Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-22 21:14                 ` [PATCH 1/6] netlink: Rename netlink_capable netlink_allowed Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-22 21:15                 ` [PATCH 2/6] net: Move the permission check in sock_diag_put_filterinfo to packet_diag_dump Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-22 21:15                 ` [PATCH 3/6] net: Fix ns_capable check in packet_diag_dump Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-22 21:16                 ` [PATCH 4/6] net: Add variants of capable for use on on sockets Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-22 21:16                 ` [PATCH 5/6] net: Add variants of capable for use on netlink messages Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-22 21:17                 ` [PATCH 6/6] net: Use netlink_ns_capable to verify the permisions of " Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-23 19:32                 ` [PATCH 0/6]: Preventing abuse when passing file descriptors David Miller
2014-04-23 21:24                   ` [PATCH 0/5]: " Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-23 21:25                     ` [PATCH 1/5] netlink: Rename netlink_capable netlink_allowed Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-23 21:26                     ` [PATCH 2/5] net: Move the permission check in sock_diag_put_filterinfo to packet_diag_dump Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-23 21:26                     ` [PATCH 3/5] net: Add variants of capable for use on on sockets Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-23 21:28                     ` [PATCH 4/5] net: Add variants of capable for use on netlink messages Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-23 21:29                     ` [PATCH 5/5] net: Use netlink_ns_capable to verify the permisions of " Eric W. Biederman
2014-05-07 22:18                       ` Jorge Boncompte [DTI2]
2014-05-07 22:26                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-07 22:52                           ` David Miller
2014-05-07 23:01                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-07 23:34                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-07 23:45                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-22 15:05                                   ` Jiri Benc
2014-05-23 23:25                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-05-23 23:51                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-24 22:34                                         ` David Miller
2014-05-25  5:38                                         ` [RFC][PATCH] netlink: Only check file credentials for implicit destinations Eric W. Biederman
2014-05-25 16:50                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-25 23:44                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-05-26  0:32                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-26  5:36                                                 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/1] netlink: Use the credential at the time the destination address was set Eric W. Biederman
2014-05-26 17:19                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-27  4:24                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-05-26 13:39                                                 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2014-05-26  8:38                                             ` [RFC][PATCH] netlink: Only check file credentials for implicit destinations Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-25  5:45                                         ` [PATCH 5/5] net: Use netlink_ns_capable to verify the permisions of netlink messages Eric W. Biederman
2014-05-25 16:27                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-08 21:29                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-05-08 21:32                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                   ` <CA+55aFzOHZcw2o6Cq6rSddSBDZvhgzYToBruak9SLCHxx-fA3Q@mail.gmail.com>
2014-05-08 21:49                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-08 22:07                                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-05-08 21:54                                     ` David Miller
2014-05-07 23:45                               ` David Miller
2014-05-08 21:21                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-05-08 21:52                                   ` David Miller
2014-05-08 21:54                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-24 17:45                     ` [PATCH 0/5]: Preventing abuse when passing file descriptors David Miller

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