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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	nhorman@tuxdriver.com, andy@greyhouse.net, dborkman@redhat.com,
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Subject: Re: [patch net-next RFC 10/12] openvswitch: add support for datapath hardware offload
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:20:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140826142027.GA1012@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53FC931A.3020903@mojatatu.com>

On 08/26/14 at 10:00am, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
> >I would argue that swflow is a superset of a Netlink route. It
> >may infact be very useful to extend the API with something that
> >understands the Netlink representation of a route and have the
> >API translate that to a classifier that can be offloaded.
> >
> 
> Sorry Thomas, I disagree.
> A route has a lot more knobs than just a simple flow representation.
> We are talking next hops (of which there could be multiple) etc.
> There is no way you can boil that down to a simple flow representation.

I guess we could argue forever.

To answer your specific statement. If per (wildcard) flow nexthop
balancing behaviour is good enough, the current flow insert is likely
sufficient. If the hardware should do the balancing, an additional
API function is probably needed to cleanly represent that.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-26 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-21 16:18 [patch net-next RFC 00/12] introduce rocker switch driver with openvswitch hardware accelerated datapath Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 02/12] net: rename netdev_phys_port_id to more generic name Jiri Pirko
     [not found]   ` <1408637945-10390-3-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 12:23     ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]       ` <53FC7C3C.3090901-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 14:10         ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-26 17:14         ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 04/12] rtnl: expose physical switch id for particular device Jiri Pirko
     [not found]   ` <1408637945-10390-5-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 19:08     ` John Fastabend
     [not found]       ` <53F79537.20207-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26  8:32         ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 05/12] net-sysfs: " Jiri Pirko
     [not found] ` <1408637945-10390-1-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 16:18   ` [patch net-next RFC 01/12] openvswitch: split flow structures into ovs specific and generic ones Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:18   ` [patch net-next RFC 03/12] net: introduce generic switch devices support Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:41     ` Ben Hutchings
2014-08-21 17:03       ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]       ` <1408639283.13073.3.camel-nDn/Rdv9kqW9Jme8/bJn5UCKIB8iOfG2tUK59QYPAWc@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-27  2:45         ` Tom Herbert
     [not found]     ` <1408637945-10390-4-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 17:05       ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]         ` <CAGVrzcYtnpcP4pfCJ0GSya01LTk0WwbSV1f+voF2K=S5CR3Arg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 12:42           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-22 12:56             ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-22 19:14               ` John Fastabend
     [not found]                 ` <53F7969C.1060509-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 23:12                   ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]               ` <20140822125655.GB1916-6KJVSR23iU488b5SBfVpbw@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23  1:02                 ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]                   ` <CAGVrzcZS=Y2stxSNMfVjWTpPT8GoDOpOD9tExnDnoF0jj_owoQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23  9:17                     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-24 11:46     ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]       ` <20140824114605.GC32741-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26  8:34         ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-27 22:19     ` Cong Wang
2014-08-21 16:18   ` [patch net-next RFC 06/12] net: introduce dummy switch Jiri Pirko
     [not found]     ` <1408637945-10390-7-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 19:14       ` Andy Gospodarek
     [not found]         ` <20140826191420.GC5275-Me9pkO/C/lgvPfuUPAiksl6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-29  7:00           ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 07/12] dsa: implement ndo_swdev_get_id Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:38   ` Ben Hutchings
2014-08-21 16:56   ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]     ` <CAGVrzcbs1yGb5RW++XZ=2PFsqUjZGVGfWx5=QQYcEX6x4WOq9Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 17:06       ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]         ` <20140821170645.GB10633-6KJVSR23iU5sFDB2n11ItA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 17:12           ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]             ` <CAGVrzcb=vkqPw2LUc4YO4Bs-eady2=1uN-jkG=kW2RnGx=24PQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22  9:05               ` David Laight
2014-08-23 11:33           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 08/12] net: introduce netdev_phys_item_ids_match helper Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 09/12] openvswitch: introduce vport_op get_netdev Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 10/12] openvswitch: add support for datapath hardware offload Jiri Pirko
     [not found]   ` <1408637945-10390-11-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 19:39     ` John Fastabend
     [not found]       ` <53F79C54.5050701-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 22:53         ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]           ` <464DB0A8-0073-4CE0-9483-0F36B73A53A1-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23  9:24             ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-23 14:51               ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                 ` <20140823145126.GB24116-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23 17:09                   ` John Fastabend
     [not found]                     ` <53F8CAB9.8080407-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-24 11:32                       ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-24  1:53             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-24 11:12               ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                 ` <20140824111218.GA32741-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-24 15:15                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
     [not found]                     ` <53FA01AC.10507-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25  2:24                       ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]                         ` <A67C7591-19BF-4431-9119-F61361F5E618-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25  2:42                           ` John Fastabend
     [not found]                             ` <53FAA2A2.7070801-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 13:53                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 14:17                                 ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                                   ` <20140825141754.GA30140-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 16:15                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
     [not found]                                       ` <53FB6122.2040901-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 22:50                                         ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                                           ` <20140825225057.GD30140-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 13:50                                             ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-08-26 14:06                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-26 14:58                                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 15:22                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]                                                     ` <20140826152217.GA1843-6KJVSR23iU5sFDB2n11ItA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 15:29                                                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 15:44                                                         ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]                                                           ` <20140826154459.GB1843-6KJVSR23iU5sFDB2n11ItA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 15:54                                                             ` Andy Gospodarek
     [not found]                                                               ` <20140826155426.GA5275-Me9pkO/C/lgvPfuUPAiksl6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 16:19                                                                 ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20140826161956.GA15316-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 18:41                                                                     ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-08-26 20:13                                                                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-08-26 20:54                                                                       ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-29 14:20                                                                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
     [not found]                                                                           ` <54008C47.5040503-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01  8:13                                                                             ` Simon Horman
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20140901081343.GC12731-IxS8c3vjKQDk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 16:37                                                                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-09-01 20:28                                                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2014-09-02  1:08                                                                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 15:01                                               ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]                                                 ` <D891A8EC-548C-453E-AC70-8431DAC4B8C4-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 15:12                                                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 14:26                                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 13:42                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 14:54                     ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                       ` <20140825145449.GB30140-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 16:48                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 22:11                           ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-26 14:00                             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 14:20                               ` Thomas Graf [this message]
     [not found]   ` <20140904090447.GB3176@vergenet.net>
     [not found]     ` <20140904090447.GB3176-IxS8c3vjKQDk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-04 16:30       ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]         ` <F4498A89-C1D6-4C5A-A6F0-942015D36B77-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05  4:08           ` Simon Horman
     [not found]             ` <20140905040810.GB32481-IxS8c3vjKQDk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05  7:02               ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]                 ` <E3C7797F-081E-484F-918E-937C705B43D6-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05 10:46                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-09-08  0:02                   ` Simon Horman
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 11/12] sw_flow: add misc section to key with in_port_ifindex field Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 12/12] rocker: introduce rocker switch driver Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 17:19   ` Florian Fainelli
2014-08-23 14:04   ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-29  7:06     ` Jiri Pirko

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