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From: Andy Gospodarek <gospo-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [patch net-next RFC 10/12] openvswitch: add support for datapath hardware offload
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:54:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140826155426.GA5275@gospo.rtplab.test> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140826154459.GB1843-6KJVSR23iU5sFDB2n11ItA@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 05:44:59PM +0200, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 05:29:10PM CEST, jhs-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >On 08/26/14 11:22, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >
> >>I do not think that really matters. Phase one is flows. After that we
> >>can focus on l2/l3. If we would be able to fit in in flows (some drivers
> >>may), then ok. If not, we extend the api with couple of more l2/l3
> >>related ndos. I see no problem there.
> >
> >Well, it matters because we are proceeding to implement L2/3.
> >i.e the simple stuff first. We dont have anything to show yet - but
> >we will hopefully have some useful bit by Plumbers.
> >So maybe best path forward is we talk then and see how we can merge
> >efforts since we cant seem to agree at this point.
> 
> I think we are in agreement. We have two worlds: flows and l2/3. We need
> both for sure. And my patchset adds an initial part of the first one.
> The second one can be added later. I do not see any issues in that.

It is easy to *say* it could be added later, but connecting to software
forwarding in the kernel outside of OVS (which is important to some)
would take significant effort since this set only connects switch
hardware to OVS.

It may be that all software-based forwarding is done via OVS in the
future, but it feels like we are long way from that future for those
that do not want to use an external controller.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-26 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-21 16:18 [patch net-next RFC 00/12] introduce rocker switch driver with openvswitch hardware accelerated datapath Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 02/12] net: rename netdev_phys_port_id to more generic name Jiri Pirko
     [not found]   ` <1408637945-10390-3-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 12:23     ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]       ` <53FC7C3C.3090901-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 14:10         ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-26 17:14         ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 04/12] rtnl: expose physical switch id for particular device Jiri Pirko
     [not found]   ` <1408637945-10390-5-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 19:08     ` John Fastabend
     [not found]       ` <53F79537.20207-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26  8:32         ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:18 ` [patch net-next RFC 05/12] net-sysfs: " Jiri Pirko
     [not found] ` <1408637945-10390-1-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 16:18   ` [patch net-next RFC 01/12] openvswitch: split flow structures into ovs specific and generic ones Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:18   ` [patch net-next RFC 03/12] net: introduce generic switch devices support Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:41     ` Ben Hutchings
2014-08-21 17:03       ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]       ` <1408639283.13073.3.camel-nDn/Rdv9kqW9Jme8/bJn5UCKIB8iOfG2tUK59QYPAWc@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-27  2:45         ` Tom Herbert
     [not found]     ` <1408637945-10390-4-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 17:05       ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]         ` <CAGVrzcYtnpcP4pfCJ0GSya01LTk0WwbSV1f+voF2K=S5CR3Arg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 12:42           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-22 12:56             ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-22 19:14               ` John Fastabend
     [not found]                 ` <53F7969C.1060509-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 23:12                   ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]               ` <20140822125655.GB1916-6KJVSR23iU488b5SBfVpbw@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23  1:02                 ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]                   ` <CAGVrzcZS=Y2stxSNMfVjWTpPT8GoDOpOD9tExnDnoF0jj_owoQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23  9:17                     ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-24 11:46     ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]       ` <20140824114605.GC32741-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26  8:34         ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-27 22:19     ` Cong Wang
2014-08-21 16:18   ` [patch net-next RFC 06/12] net: introduce dummy switch Jiri Pirko
     [not found]     ` <1408637945-10390-7-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 19:14       ` Andy Gospodarek
     [not found]         ` <20140826191420.GC5275-Me9pkO/C/lgvPfuUPAiksl6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-29  7:00           ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 07/12] dsa: implement ndo_swdev_get_id Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:38   ` Ben Hutchings
2014-08-21 16:56   ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]     ` <CAGVrzcbs1yGb5RW++XZ=2PFsqUjZGVGfWx5=QQYcEX6x4WOq9Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 17:06       ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]         ` <20140821170645.GB10633-6KJVSR23iU5sFDB2n11ItA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 17:12           ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]             ` <CAGVrzcb=vkqPw2LUc4YO4Bs-eady2=1uN-jkG=kW2RnGx=24PQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22  9:05               ` David Laight
2014-08-23 11:33           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 08/12] net: introduce netdev_phys_item_ids_match helper Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 09/12] openvswitch: introduce vport_op get_netdev Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 10/12] openvswitch: add support for datapath hardware offload Jiri Pirko
     [not found]   ` <1408637945-10390-11-git-send-email-jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 19:39     ` John Fastabend
     [not found]       ` <53F79C54.5050701-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 22:53         ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]           ` <464DB0A8-0073-4CE0-9483-0F36B73A53A1-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23  9:24             ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-23 14:51               ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                 ` <20140823145126.GB24116-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-23 17:09                   ` John Fastabend
     [not found]                     ` <53F8CAB9.8080407-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-24 11:32                       ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-24  1:53             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-24 11:12               ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                 ` <20140824111218.GA32741-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-24 15:15                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
     [not found]                     ` <53FA01AC.10507-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25  2:24                       ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]                         ` <A67C7591-19BF-4431-9119-F61361F5E618-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25  2:42                           ` John Fastabend
     [not found]                             ` <53FAA2A2.7070801-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 13:53                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 14:17                                 ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                                   ` <20140825141754.GA30140-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 16:15                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
     [not found]                                       ` <53FB6122.2040901-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 22:50                                         ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                                           ` <20140825225057.GD30140-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 13:50                                             ` Roopa Prabhu
2014-08-26 14:06                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2014-08-26 14:58                                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 15:22                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]                                                     ` <20140826152217.GA1843-6KJVSR23iU5sFDB2n11ItA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 15:29                                                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 15:44                                                         ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]                                                           ` <20140826154459.GB1843-6KJVSR23iU5sFDB2n11ItA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 15:54                                                             ` Andy Gospodarek [this message]
     [not found]                                                               ` <20140826155426.GA5275-Me9pkO/C/lgvPfuUPAiksl6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 16:19                                                                 ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20140826161956.GA15316-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 18:41                                                                     ` Andy Gospodarek
2014-08-26 20:13                                                                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-08-26 20:54                                                                       ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-29 14:20                                                                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
     [not found]                                                                           ` <54008C47.5040503-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01  8:13                                                                             ` Simon Horman
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20140901081343.GC12731-IxS8c3vjKQDk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 16:37                                                                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-09-01 20:28                                                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2014-09-02  1:08                                                                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 15:01                                               ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]                                                 ` <D891A8EC-548C-453E-AC70-8431DAC4B8C4-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 15:12                                                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 14:26                                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 13:42                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 14:54                     ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]                       ` <20140825145449.GB30140-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 16:48                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-25 22:11                           ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-26 14:00                             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-08-26 14:20                               ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]   ` <20140904090447.GB3176@vergenet.net>
     [not found]     ` <20140904090447.GB3176-IxS8c3vjKQDk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-04 16:30       ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]         ` <F4498A89-C1D6-4C5A-A6F0-942015D36B77-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05  4:08           ` Simon Horman
     [not found]             ` <20140905040810.GB32481-IxS8c3vjKQDk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05  7:02               ` Scott Feldman
     [not found]                 ` <E3C7797F-081E-484F-918E-937C705B43D6-qUQiAmfTcIp+XZJcv9eMoEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05 10:46                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-09-08  0:02                   ` Simon Horman
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 11/12] sw_flow: add misc section to key with in_port_ifindex field Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 16:19 ` [patch net-next RFC 12/12] rocker: introduce rocker switch driver Jiri Pirko
2014-08-21 17:19   ` Florian Fainelli
2014-08-23 14:04   ` Thomas Graf
2014-08-29  7:06     ` Jiri Pirko

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