From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: herbert@gondor.apana.org.au
Cc: viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bcrl@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [0/3] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2014 15:05:53 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141103.150553.633529234958324183.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141103053751.GA27845@gondor.apana.org.au>
From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 13:37:51 +0800
> On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 12:45:03AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
>>
>> Note, BTW, that there's a damn good reason to convert the socket side of
>> things to iov_iter - as it is, ->splice_write() there is basically done with
>> page-by-page mapping and doing kernel_sendmsg(); being able to deal with
>> "map and copy" stuff *inside* ->sendmsg() would not only reduce the overhead,
>> it would allow to get rid of ->sendpage() completely.  Basically, let
>> ->sendmsg() instances check the iov_iter type and play zerocopy games if
>> it's an "array of kernel pages" kind.  Compare ->sendpage() and ->sendmsg()
>> instances for the protocols that have nontrivial ->sendpage(); you'll see
>> that there's a lot of duplication.  Merging them looks very feasible, with
>> divergence happening only very deep in the call chain.
> 
> Honestly I don't really care which way we end up going as long as
> we pick one solution and stick with it.  Right now we have an
> abomination in the form of skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec which is
> the worst of both worlds, plus it duplicates tons of code.
> 
> So here's a few patches to kill this crap.
To pick one direction and go with it, I totally agree with.
But a patch set like this as an interim solution, I am not so happy
with.
If the method says const, we have a contract with the caller to not
modify the iovec.  That caller can assume that we have not done so.
So this patch set violated that contract and can result in real bugs
either now or in the future.
I'll see if I can make some progress converting the networking over
to iov_iter.  It can't be that difficult... albeit perhaps a little
time consuming.
next prev parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-03 20:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-02 23:05 fs: Use non-const iov in aio_read/aio_write Herbert Xu
2014-11-03  0:16 ` Al Viro
2014-11-03  0:21   ` Al Viro
2014-11-03  0:22   ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-03  0:45     ` Al Viro
2014-11-03  5:37       ` [0/3] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Herbert Xu
2014-11-03  5:44         ` [PATCH 1/3] tun: Modify const aio_read iovec per do_sock_read Herbert Xu
2014-11-03  5:44         ` [PATCH 3/3] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Herbert Xu
2014-11-03  5:44         ` [PATCH 2/3] macvtap: Modify const aio_read iovec per do_sock_read Herbert Xu
2014-11-03 20:05         ` David Miller [this message]
2014-11-04  3:38           ` [0/3] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  8:31             ` [PATCH 1/4] inet: Add skb_copy_datagram_iter Herbert Xu
2014-11-04 14:32               ` Al Viro
2014-11-04 14:35                 ` Al Viro
2014-11-04 14:44                   ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-04 14:52                     ` Al Viro
2014-11-04 14:55                       ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-04 14:42                 ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-04 15:13                   ` Al Viro
2014-11-05  2:22                     ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-05  3:27                       ` David Miller
2014-11-05  3:55                         ` Al Viro
2014-11-05  4:12                           ` Al Viro
2014-11-05 20:51                             ` David Miller
2014-11-05 20:50                           ` David Miller
2014-11-05 21:07                             ` Al Viro
2014-11-05 21:57                               ` David Miller
2014-11-06  3:25                                 ` Al Viro
2014-11-06  5:50                                   ` ipv4: Use standard iovec primitive in raw_probe_proto_opt Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  6:43                                     ` Al Viro
2014-11-06  6:46                                       ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  7:11                                         ` Al Viro
2014-11-06  9:55                                           ` Jon Maloy
2014-11-06 22:16                                             ` Al Viro
2014-11-28  5:14                                               ` Al Viro
2014-11-06 21:28                                         ` David Miller
2014-11-07  2:00                                           ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:25                                             ` [PATCH 0/2] ipv4: Simplify raw_probe_proto_opt and avoid reading user iov twice Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:27                                               ` [PATCH 1/2] ipv4: Use standard iovec primitive in raw_probe_proto_opt Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:27                                               ` [PATCH 2/2] ipv4: Avoid reading user iov twice after raw_probe_proto_opt Herbert Xu
2014-11-10 19:26                                               ` [PATCH 0/2] ipv4: Simplify raw_probe_proto_opt and avoid reading user iov twice David Miller
2014-11-06  9:50                                   ` [PATCH 1/4] inet: Add skb_copy_datagram_iter Jon Maloy
2014-11-07 21:48                                   ` David Miller
2014-11-07 22:11                                     ` Al Viro
2014-11-07 22:31                                       ` Al Viro
2014-11-07 22:35                                         ` Al Viro
2014-11-07 23:42                                       ` Al Viro
2014-11-08  2:21                                         ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-09 21:19                                         ` Al Viro
2014-11-10  5:20                                           ` David Miller
2014-11-10  6:58                                             ` Al Viro
2014-11-10  7:30                                               ` David Miller
2014-11-10  9:09                                                 ` Al Viro
2014-11-10 16:18                                                   ` David Miller
2014-11-10 10:14                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-07 21:52                                   ` David Miller
2014-11-05 20:24               ` David Miller
2014-11-06  8:23                 ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-06 17:25                   ` David Miller
2014-11-07  1:59                     ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-07  3:13                       ` David Miller
2014-11-07 13:21                         ` [PATCH 0/4] Replace skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec with iterator version Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:22                           ` [PATCH 1/4] inet: Add skb_copy_datagram_iter Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:22                           ` [PATCH 2/4] tun: Use iovec iterators Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:22                           ` [PATCH 3/4] macvtap: " Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:22                           ` [PATCH 4/4] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  8:27                 ` [PATCH 0/4] Replace skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec with iterator version Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  8:28                   ` [PATCH 1/4] inet: Add skb_copy_datagram_iter Herbert Xu
2014-11-06 17:30                     ` Al Viro
2014-11-07  1:58                       ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  8:28                   ` [PATCH 2/4] tun: Use iovec iterators Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  8:28                   ` [PATCH 3/4] macvtap: " Herbert Xu
2014-11-06 17:33                     ` Al Viro
2014-11-06  8:28                   ` [PATCH 4/4] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  8:31             ` [PATCH 2/4] tun: Use iovec iterators Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  8:37               ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-05  2:49                 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
2014-11-05  3:41                   ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  8:31             ` [PATCH 4/4] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  8:31             ` [PATCH 3/4] macvtap: Use iovec iterators Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  5:45           ` [0/3] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Al Viro
2014-11-05  1:53             ` Al Viro
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