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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: fs: Use non-const iov in aio_read/aio_write
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 00:21:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141103002139.GW7996@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141103001634.GV7996@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 12:16:34AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:

> NAK with extreme prejudice.  The right way to deal with that is
> to convert the socket side of things to iov_iter.  And give it a
> consistent behaviour, while we are at it (some protocols do advance
> the damn thing, so do not).  There are _very_ good reasons to have those
> iovecs unchanged - if you look at the callers on the socket side, you'll
> see a bunch that has to _copy_ iovec just to avoid it being buggered.
> And you get rather suboptimal behaviour in memcpy_fromiovec() and friends,
> exactly because you have to skip through the emptied elements.
> 
> IOW, no way in hell.

PS: I do have the beginning of that stuff sitting in the local queue since
April; see http://marc.info/?l=linux-xfs&m=139179304710494&w=2 for the
beginning of the story.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-03  0:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-02 23:05 fs: Use non-const iov in aio_read/aio_write Herbert Xu
2014-11-03  0:16 ` Al Viro
2014-11-03  0:21   ` Al Viro [this message]
2014-11-03  0:22   ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-03  0:45     ` Al Viro
2014-11-03  5:37       ` [0/3] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Herbert Xu
2014-11-03  5:44         ` [PATCH 1/3] tun: Modify const aio_read iovec per do_sock_read Herbert Xu
2014-11-03  5:44         ` [PATCH 3/3] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Herbert Xu
2014-11-03  5:44         ` [PATCH 2/3] macvtap: Modify const aio_read iovec per do_sock_read Herbert Xu
2014-11-03 20:05         ` [0/3] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec David Miller
2014-11-04  3:38           ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  8:31             ` [PATCH 2/4] tun: Use iovec iterators Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  8:37               ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-05  2:49                 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
2014-11-05  3:41                   ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  8:31             ` [PATCH 1/4] inet: Add skb_copy_datagram_iter Herbert Xu
2014-11-04 14:32               ` Al Viro
2014-11-04 14:35                 ` Al Viro
2014-11-04 14:44                   ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-04 14:52                     ` Al Viro
2014-11-04 14:55                       ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-04 14:42                 ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-04 15:13                   ` Al Viro
2014-11-05  2:22                     ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-05  3:27                       ` David Miller
2014-11-05  3:55                         ` Al Viro
2014-11-05  4:12                           ` Al Viro
2014-11-05 20:51                             ` David Miller
2014-11-05 20:50                           ` David Miller
2014-11-05 21:07                             ` Al Viro
2014-11-05 21:57                               ` David Miller
2014-11-06  3:25                                 ` Al Viro
2014-11-06  5:50                                   ` ipv4: Use standard iovec primitive in raw_probe_proto_opt Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  6:43                                     ` Al Viro
2014-11-06  6:46                                       ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  7:11                                         ` Al Viro
2014-11-06  9:55                                           ` Jon Maloy
2014-11-06 22:16                                             ` Al Viro
2014-11-28  5:14                                               ` Al Viro
2014-11-06 21:28                                         ` David Miller
2014-11-07  2:00                                           ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:25                                             ` [PATCH 0/2] ipv4: Simplify raw_probe_proto_opt and avoid reading user iov twice Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:27                                               ` [PATCH 1/2] ipv4: Use standard iovec primitive in raw_probe_proto_opt Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:27                                               ` [PATCH 2/2] ipv4: Avoid reading user iov twice after raw_probe_proto_opt Herbert Xu
2014-11-10 19:26                                               ` [PATCH 0/2] ipv4: Simplify raw_probe_proto_opt and avoid reading user iov twice David Miller
2014-11-06  9:50                                   ` [PATCH 1/4] inet: Add skb_copy_datagram_iter Jon Maloy
2014-11-07 21:48                                   ` David Miller
2014-11-07 22:11                                     ` Al Viro
2014-11-07 22:31                                       ` Al Viro
2014-11-07 22:35                                         ` Al Viro
2014-11-07 23:42                                       ` Al Viro
2014-11-08  2:21                                         ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-09 21:19                                         ` Al Viro
2014-11-10  5:20                                           ` David Miller
2014-11-10  6:58                                             ` Al Viro
2014-11-10  7:30                                               ` David Miller
2014-11-10  9:09                                                 ` Al Viro
2014-11-10 16:18                                                   ` David Miller
2014-11-10 10:14                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-07 21:52                                   ` David Miller
2014-11-05 20:24               ` David Miller
2014-11-06  8:23                 ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-06 17:25                   ` David Miller
2014-11-07  1:59                     ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-07  3:13                       ` David Miller
2014-11-07 13:21                         ` [PATCH 0/4] Replace skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec with iterator version Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:22                           ` [PATCH 1/4] inet: Add skb_copy_datagram_iter Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:22                           ` [PATCH 2/4] tun: Use iovec iterators Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:22                           ` [PATCH 3/4] macvtap: " Herbert Xu
2014-11-07 13:22                           ` [PATCH 4/4] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  8:27                 ` [PATCH 0/4] Replace skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec with iterator version Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  8:28                   ` [PATCH 1/4] inet: Add skb_copy_datagram_iter Herbert Xu
2014-11-06 17:30                     ` Al Viro
2014-11-07  1:58                       ` Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  8:28                   ` [PATCH 2/4] tun: Use iovec iterators Herbert Xu
2014-11-06  8:28                   ` [PATCH 3/4] macvtap: " Herbert Xu
2014-11-06 17:33                     ` Al Viro
2014-11-06  8:28                   ` [PATCH 4/4] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  8:31             ` [PATCH 3/4] macvtap: Use iovec iterators Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  8:31             ` [PATCH 4/4] net: Kill skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec Herbert Xu
2014-11-04  5:45           ` [0/3] " Al Viro
2014-11-05  1:53             ` Al Viro

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