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From: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
To: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas@gmail.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ivaylo Dimitrov <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>,
	Aaro Koskinen <aaro.koskinen@iki.fi>,
	Kalle Valo <kvalo@adurom.com>, Sebastian Reichel <sre@ring0.de>,
	David Gnedt <david.gnedt@davizone.at>
Subject: Re: wl1251: NVS firmware data
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 22:08:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201412082208.56307@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141208210018.GB14895@kroah.com>

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On Monday 08 December 2014 22:00:18 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 08:15:18PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Nokia N900 NVS data are generated on-the-fly from some
> > bytes from CAL (/dev/mtd1), from state of cellular network
> > and from some other regulation settings.
> 
> When is this "generated"?  At boot time?  Or by the firmware
> loader program you have hooked into being called by the
> kernel at "load the firmware now please" call time?
> 

When userspace system network daemon is started.

> > So I think that files stored in linux-firmware.git tree
> > (which are also installed into /lib/firmware/) should be
> > loaded with request_firmware function. Or not? Do you think
> > something else? What other developers think?
> > 
> > I'm against kernel driver for CAL (/dev/mtd1) for more
> > reasons:
> > 
> > 1) we have userspace open source code, but licensed under
> > GPLv3. And until kernel change license, we cannot include
> > it.
> 
> You can change the license of your code if you want to, don't
> make this type of nonsense argument.
> 

Code is not mine, so I cannot change license.

> > 2) NVS data are (probably) not in one place, plus they
> > depends on something other.
> 
> What is "something other"?  Where are they located?  Why would
> the firmware interface know or care anything about this?
> 

fcc bit and some other data retrieved from daemon which 
communicating with cellular modem.

> > 3) If manufacture XYZ create new device with its own storage
> > format of calibration data this means that correct solution
> > for XYZ is also to implement new kernel fs driver for its
> > own format.
> 
> Yes, as it is doing it's own custom thing, why overload an
> existing interface to do something it was never designed to
> do?
> 
> > Do you really want to have in kernel all those drivers for
> > all different (proprietary) storage formats?
> 
> Yes, we are not afraid of lots of different drivers.  That is
> not even a valid argument, you know better than this :)
> 
> > 4) It does not help us with existence of generic file
> > /lib/firmware/ti-connectivity/wl1251-nvs.bin which comes
> > from linux-firmware.git tree.
> 
> Again, not an issue.  If you don't want that file in the repo,
> ask for it to be removed, and it will be, just send a patch
> to do it.
> 
> greg k-h

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-08 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-27 14:06 wl1251: NVS firmware data Pali Rohár
2014-11-27 14:21 ` Ming Lei
2014-11-27 14:43   ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-27 15:13     ` Ming Lei
2014-12-06 13:00       ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-27 15:14     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-27 15:24       ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-27 15:34         ` Ming Lei
2014-11-27 15:16     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-27 15:22       ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-27 15:58         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-12-06 12:49           ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-06 13:02             ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 15:18               ` Ming Lei
2014-12-08 15:22                 ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 15:35                   ` Ming Lei
2014-12-08 16:37                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-12-08 16:47                   ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 17:05                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-12-08 17:11                       ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 18:50                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-12-08 19:15                           ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 19:26                             ` Dan Williams
2014-12-08 19:36                               ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 19:46                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-12-08 19:56                                   ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 22:51                                 ` Dan Williams
2014-12-08 23:23                                   ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 23:42                                     ` Dan Williams
2014-12-08 23:52                                       ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 19:42                               ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2014-12-08 22:41                                 ` Dan Williams
2014-12-09  5:10                                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-12-08 19:41                             ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-12-08 19:52                               ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 21:00                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-12-08 21:08                               ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2014-12-08 20:57                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-12-08 21:11                       ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 23:27                       ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-09  5:25                         ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]                       ` <20141208205721.GA14895-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09  0:48                         ` Ming Lei
2014-12-09  4:08                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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