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From: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
To: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas@gmail.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ivaylo Dimitrov <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>,
	Aaro Koskinen <aaro.koskinen@iki.fi>,
	Kalle Valo <kvalo@adurom.com>, Sebastian Reichel <sre@ring0.de>,
	David Gnedt <david.gnedt@davizone.at>
Subject: Re: wl1251: NVS firmware data
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 22:11:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201412082211.22352@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141208205721.GA14895@kroah.com>

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On Monday 08 December 2014 21:57:21 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 05:47:30PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Monday 08 December 2014 17:37:14 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:18:18PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Pali Rohár
> > 
> > <pali.rohar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday 06 December 2014 13:49:54 Pavel Machek 
wrote:
> > > > >  /**
> > > > > 
> > > > > + * request_firmware_prefer_user: - prefer usermode
> > > > > helper for loading firmware + * @firmware_p: pointer
> > > > > to firmware image
> > > > > + * @name: name of firmware file
> > > > > + * @device: device for which firmware is being loaded
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * This function works pretty much like
> > > > > request_firmware(), but it prefer + * usermode helper.
> > > > > If usermode helper fails then it fallback to direct
> > > > > access. + * Usefull for dynamic or model specific
> > > > > firmware data. + **/
> > > > > +int request_firmware_prefer_user(const struct
> > > > > firmware **firmware_p, +                          
> > > > > const char *name, struct device *device) +{
> > > > > +       int ret;
> > > > > +       __module_get(THIS_MODULE);
> > > > > +       ret = _request_firmware(firmware_p, name,
> > > > > device, +                               FW_OPT_UEVENT
> > > > > | FW_OPT_PREFER_USER); +      
> > > > > module_put(THIS_MODULE); +       return ret;
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(request_firmware_prefer_user);
> > > > 
> > > > I'd like to introduce request_firmware_user() which only
> > > > requests firmware from user space, and this way is
> > > > simpler and more flexible since we have
> > > > request_firmware_direct() already.
> > > 
> > > Why would a driver care about what program provides the
> > > firmware?  It shouldn't at all, and we want to get rid of
> > > the userspace firmware loader, not encourage drivers to
> > > use it "exclusively" at all.
> > 
> > Do not remove it! Without userspace firmware loader it is
> > impossible to load dynamic firmware files.
> 
> You should not be loading "dynamic" firmware files with the
> firmware interface, as that's not a "firmware" file anymore,
> it's a "special binary file that my driver needs to be
> created and sent into the kernel."
> 
> Use your own custom usermode helper for stuff like this, not
> the firmware interface.  But use a binary sysfs file if you
> want, that seems to make sense for it...
> 
> greg k-h

Nokia for this problem invented its own netlink interface into 
wl1251 driver. But because it was specific for N900 device it was 
rejected for inclusion into mainline kernel.

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-08 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-27 14:06 wl1251: NVS firmware data Pali Rohár
2014-11-27 14:21 ` Ming Lei
2014-11-27 14:43   ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-27 15:13     ` Ming Lei
2014-12-06 13:00       ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-27 15:14     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-27 15:24       ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-27 15:34         ` Ming Lei
2014-11-27 15:16     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-27 15:22       ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-27 15:58         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-12-06 12:49           ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-06 13:02             ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 15:18               ` Ming Lei
2014-12-08 15:22                 ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 15:35                   ` Ming Lei
2014-12-08 16:37                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-12-08 16:47                   ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 17:05                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-12-08 17:11                       ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 18:50                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-12-08 19:15                           ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 19:26                             ` Dan Williams
2014-12-08 19:36                               ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 19:46                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-12-08 19:56                                   ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 22:51                                 ` Dan Williams
2014-12-08 23:23                                   ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 23:42                                     ` Dan Williams
2014-12-08 23:52                                       ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 19:42                               ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2014-12-08 22:41                                 ` Dan Williams
2014-12-09  5:10                                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-12-08 19:41                             ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-12-08 19:52                               ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 21:00                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-12-08 21:08                               ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-08 20:57                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-12-08 21:11                       ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2014-12-08 23:27                       ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-09  5:25                         ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]                       ` <20141208205721.GA14895-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09  0:48                         ` Ming Lei
2014-12-09  4:08                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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