From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
simon.horman@netronome.com, sfeldma@gmail.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
gerlitz.or@gmail.com, andy@greyhouse.net, ast@plumgrid.com
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH v3 00/12] Flow API
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:08:21 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150123110821.GH25797@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150123102421.GB2065@nanopsycho.orion>
On 01/23/15 at 11:24am, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> I think that comparing this to team or routing userspace is not
> correct. The reason is that team and routing has single api to kernel.
> However in this case userspace has to use multiple APIs.
The point I was trying to make is that there are legitimate reasons
to keep complexity out of the kernel and team is a good example for
that.
As for multiple APIs. Team does in fact export its own Generic Netlink
interface while it also hooks into rtnetlink to support ip link. Not
sure whether that qualifies for multiple APIs or not but I think it's
an excellent architecture decision. Same as for nl80211 tools.
> For example OVS. It would have to use existing OVS gennetlink iface + this
> new flow netlink iface for flow offloads. For all others, this is the same.
> Multiple apis for the same thing (does not matter if it is implemented
> in hw or sw) does not seem right to me.
Fair enough. I have no objections to merging the flow API into RTNETLINK
although I don't really see a need to put more under the rtnl umbrella
unless absolutely required.
I think John also mentioned that he proposes to have this as a separate
Generic Netlink interface for now but this could really live wherever it
seems appropriate.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-23 11:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-20 20:26 [net-next PATCH v3 00/12] Flow API John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:26 ` [net-next PATCH v3 01/12] net: flow_table: create interface for hw match/action tables John Fastabend
2015-01-22 4:37 ` Simon Horman
2015-01-20 20:27 ` [net-next PATCH v3 02/12] net: flow_table: add rule, delete rule John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:27 ` [net-next PATCH v3 03/12] net: flow: implement flow cache for get routines John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:27 ` [net-next PATCH v3 04/12] net: flow_table: create a set of common headers and actions John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:59 ` John W. Linville
2015-01-20 22:10 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:28 ` [net-next PATCH v3 05/12] net: flow_table: add validation functions for rules John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:28 ` [net-next PATCH v3 06/12] net: rocker: add pipeline model for rocker switch John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:29 ` [net-next PATCH v3 07/12] net: rocker: add set rule ops John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:29 ` [net-next PATCH v3 08/12] net: rocker: add group_id slices and drop explicit goto John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:30 ` [net-next PATCH v3 09/12] net: rocker: add multicast path to bridging John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:30 ` [net-next PATCH v3 10/12] net: rocker: add cookie to group acls and use flow_id to set cookie John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:31 ` [net-next PATCH v3 11/12] net: rocker: have flow api calls set cookie value John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:31 ` [net-next PATCH v3 12/12] net: rocker: implement delete flow routine John Fastabend
2015-01-22 12:52 ` [net-next PATCH v3 00/12] Flow API Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-22 13:37 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 14:00 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-22 15:00 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-22 15:13 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 15:28 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-22 15:37 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 15:44 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-23 10:10 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 10:24 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 11:08 ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2015-01-23 11:39 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 12:28 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 13:43 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 14:07 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 15:25 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 15:43 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 15:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 15:49 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 16:00 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 15:34 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 15:53 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 16:00 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 16:08 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 16:16 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-24 13:04 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-23 17:46 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 19:59 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 23:16 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-24 13:22 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-24 13:34 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-24 13:01 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-26 8:26 ` Simon Horman
2015-01-26 12:26 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-27 4:28 ` David Ahern
2015-01-27 4:58 ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-01-27 15:54 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-24 12:36 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-22 15:48 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-22 17:58 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 16:49 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-22 17:10 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-22 17:44 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-24 12:34 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-24 13:48 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 9:00 ` David Miller
2015-01-22 16:58 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 10:49 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 16:42 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-24 12:29 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
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