From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail.com>
Cc: Andy Gospodarek <gospo@cumulusnetworks.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Rafa?? Mi??ecki <zajec5@gmail.com>,
Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Jonas Gorski <jogo@openwrt.org>,
Hauke Mehrtens <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: phy: b53: switchdev driver for Broadcom BCM53xx switches
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 15:44:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150226144433.GF1973@nanopsycho.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE4R7bBspZn3Mt2-KGeBBCfkxOQAmFFoOZJAnTKJBNPkS9P2Lg@mail.gmail.com>
Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 03:19:27PM CET, sfeldma@gmail.com wrote:
>On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Andy Gospodarek
><gospo@cumulusnetworks.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 07:47:55AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>> Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 05:21:58AM CET, gospo@cumulusnetworks.com wrote:
>>> >On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 04:53:24PM -0800, Scott Feldman wrote:
>>> >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Andy Gospodarek
>>> >> <gospo@cumulusnetworks.com> wrote:
>>> >> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 03:03:56PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> >> > [...]
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> What we don't want is X chip families and Y different ways to
>>> >> >> configure the features. Ideal we want X chip families, and one way to
>>> >> >> configure them all.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > This statement is really my primary concern. There is lots of interest
>>> >> > around hardware offload at this point and it seems like there is a risk
>>> >> > that a lack of consistency can create problems.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I think these patches are great as they allow for the programming of the
>>> >> > offload hardware (and it has been pointed out that this drastically
>>> >> > increases performance), but one concern I have with this patch (related
>>> >> > to this) is that I'm not sure there is a major need to create netdevs
>>> >> > automatically if there is not the ability to rx/tx actual frames on
>>> >> > these interfaces.
>>> >>
>>> >> Even when not used for rx/tx to CPU, it seems the netdevs are still
>>> >> useful as an anchor to build higher-level constructs such as bridge or
>>> >> bond, and to hang stuff like netdev stats or ethtool-ish things.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >I agree that they are useful, but now we are really dealing with a
>>> >netdev that is slightly lower functionality than we expect from a netdev
>>> >right now.
>>>
>>> Is that a real care for some device now?
>> I guess that depends on how users expect to use it. :)
>>
>>> I agree with Scott that we need to model is consistently. If there is
>>> such port netdev witch cannot tx/rx, we can expose the fact using some
>>> flag...
>> Using a flag to expose/mark this was exactly my thought.
>
>Missing .ndo_start_xmit is the clue....do we need more?
You do not want to add null check for ndo_start_xmit to xmit path :)
This should be some stub in case of no-tx.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-26 14:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-24 17:42 [PATCH] net: phy: b53: switchdev driver for Broadcom BCM53xx switches Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-24 17:47 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-24 21:51 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-24 22:29 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-25 0:51 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-24 22:30 ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-02-24 22:50 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-24 22:55 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-25 0:15 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-25 0:39 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-25 7:03 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-25 8:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-02-25 14:03 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-25 14:17 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-25 14:19 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-26 14:58 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-26 15:18 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-26 15:30 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-26 15:36 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-26 15:49 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-26 16:21 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-26 17:58 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-26 18:26 ` Scott Feldman
2015-02-26 17:57 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-25 15:46 ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-02-25 17:23 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-25 21:56 ` Andrew Lunn
2015-02-26 0:53 ` Scott Feldman
2015-02-26 4:21 ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-02-26 6:47 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-02-26 7:14 ` B Viswanath
2015-02-26 14:13 ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-02-26 14:19 ` Scott Feldman
2015-02-26 14:44 ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2015-02-27 22:21 ` David Miller
2015-02-26 17:52 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-26 17:51 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-25 6:44 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-24 22:48 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-24 22:56 ` Rafał Miłecki
2015-02-24 22:59 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-02-25 2:10 ` David Miller
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